Noam Chomsky on How To Prevent World War III

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Henosis Sage

2022-04-17 08:50:55 UTC

The eminent scholar on the worsening threat of nuclear warfare, how to end the war in Ukraine, the self-justifying myths propagated by imperial powers, why the Global South finds American moralizing laughable, and more.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2022/04/noam-chomsky-on-how-to-prevent-world-war-iii

Henosis Sage

2022-04-17 10:14:23 UTC

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The eminent scholar on the worsening threat of nuclear warfare, how to end the war in Ukraine, the self-justifying myths propagated by imperial powers, why the Global South finds American moralizing laughable, and more.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2022/04/noam-chomsky-on-how-to-prevent-world-war-iii

The War in Ukraine and the Collapsing World Order

Watch this in-depth discussion with distinguished guests:

Alastair Crooke
Former EU senior diplomat and the founder and director of Conflicts Forum.

Scott Ritter
Former US Marine Corps Intelligence officer and UN Chief Weapons Inspector.

Max Blumenthal
American Journalist, author, blogger, and editor of The Grayzone website.

Seyed Mohammad Marandi
Professor of English literature and Orientalism, University of Tehran.

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Tisra Til

2022-04-17 22:36:40 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

Henosis Sage

2022-04-18 06:59:48 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

Henosis Sage

2022-04-20 04:02:20 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view

Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022

Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.

Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.

International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.

The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?

Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

Henosis Sage

2022-04-20 05:16:58 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.

from today's Lavrov interview with India Today TV. Here's the first Q:

"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."

To properly answer, Lavrov reviews the sordid history since the supposed end of the Cold War, and then from 2003 for Ukraine. IMO, these are the paragraphs that matter:

In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.

We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.

People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]

Lavrov then details the real essentials the Outlaw US Empire and its vassals don't want the Global South to know:

They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.

All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.

https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/

Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.

the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

Tisra Til

2022-04-21 00:16:46 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

This guy has an interesting view on world politics. I discovered his videos a year and a half ago. His videos get removed from youtube on a regular basis. He is from South Africa. He has done a lot of research to support his views on what has been going on for a long time. He claims he was imprisoned and tortured by Swiss police for airing his views about Switzerland and what it represents in world politics. His name is Sean, btw.
This is part 1 of 2.

Henosis Sage

2022-04-21 02:45:46 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

thanks but its too much to absorb.

to me the core issues are about power / abuse of, who has it, how it is used and for what purposes. wealth money usually is a reasonable measure of power but not exclusively. over time different groups arise and pass. the mindsets may be similar but the direct connections of X group to today is of less importance imho. like the way the commons was dispersed from the people in common to individuals in the england overtime is a mindset event not so much an english monarchy peerage itself or their descendents (imho)

so i'm saying history can help inform why whats going on but only up to a point. the present context is more important.

like the weak excuse/claim/assumption that " all religions plagiarsed in the past, took stuff from prior texts/ideas" does not make it just fine and dandy what twitchell did in the 20th century to make up eckankar and the deceits of leaders and eckists ever since.

it's not an excuse at all ... it's irelevant bs. cheers

Henosis Sage

2022-04-21 08:08:52 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

thanks but its too much to absorb.
to me the core issues are about power / abuse of, who has it, how it is used and for what purposes. wealth money usually is a reasonable measure of power but not exclusively. over time different groups arise and pass. the mindsets may be similar but the direct connections of X group to today is of less importance imho. like the way the commons was dispersed from the people in common to individuals in the england overtime is a mindset event not so much an english monarchy peerage itself or their descendents (imho)
so i'm saying history can help inform why whats going on but only up to a point. the present context is more important.
like the weak excuse/claim/assumption that " all religions plagiarsed in the past, took stuff from prior texts/ideas" does not make it just fine and dandy what twitchell did in the 20th century to make up eckankar and the deceits of leaders and eckists ever since.
it's not an excuse at all ... it's irelevant bs. cheers

and PS the ukraine eu nato russia usa china etc geopolitics and more dte national issues are far too complex for me to truly understand and grasp. no one is a fly on the wall imho. no info comment is fair reasonable or more truer .... so, each to their own judgements of what more relevant reliable in tune with your own values etc..

so these snippets I pass on are only that, snippets of info, all of it is biased in some way dependent on who is doing the reporting and their own framework pov (eg Chomsky does definitively have a consistent frame/pov over decades re usa actions especially
) ..... if anything, I am only passing on less well known info/perspectives and potential useful sources to check out if interested and fwiw ...

what people make of it or even if you choose to ignore/reject some items is all fine by me. its a complete mess / disaster afterall ...

Tisra Til

2022-04-22 22:52:54 UTC

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Post by Henosis Sage

More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

thanks but its too much to absorb.
to me the core issues are about power / abuse of, who has it, how it is used and for what purposes. wealth money usually is a reasonable measure of power but not exclusively. over time different groups arise and pass. the mindsets may be similar but the direct connections of X group to today is of less importance imho. like the way the commons was dispersed from the people in common to individuals in the england overtime is a mindset event not so much an english monarchy peerage itself or their descendents (imho)
so i'm saying history can help inform why whats going on but only up to a point. the present context is more important.
like the weak excuse/claim/assumption that " all religions plagiarsed in the past, took stuff from prior texts/ideas" does not make it just fine and dandy what twitchell did in the 20th century to make up eckankar and the deceits of leaders and eckists ever since.
it's not an excuse at all ... it's irelevant bs. cheers

I don’t know if “present context” is more important. The present is built on the past, whether that be ten days, ten years, ten decades, or ten centuries. Or ten minutes, for that matter.

I’m being facetious, somewhat. The present is built on the past, and from that the future “path” can be somewhat inferred. Like Orwell and 1984, or Huxley and Brave New World, what is happening now, in the present, seems to be moving in the direction of the dystopian future they intuited and put forth, as food for the mill. Seems to get closer and closer, by the day.

Others have traced out in detail who is involved and how they are involved. I don’t think they have/had any intention to deceive people who happen upon their work.

No insult to Chomsky, but from what I have read - mainly from what you have posted - is coming in late to the party, so to speak, which others have covered in depth. Just my opinion, of course. But I think others have laid down the groundwork that makes what is happening today just exhibits A and B to what they saw coming down the pike. It’s a natural progression that is coming to fruition, iow.

It doesn’t require being a prophet, or a clairvoyant sage of the highest degree to see the end game. A one world government, a one world financial system (in the words of the “Great Reset” profiteer and spokesperson for the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, “you will own nothing and be happy.” There are plenty of videos of him touting that mantra; and proudly, I must say :) a one world medical (read fascist) system, which is already happening, and likely a one world language (Newspeak, anyone?). It’s been foretold, forecasted, for decades. Others definitely outside of the mainstream (of Big Media) have been blowing the trumpets for decades.

All my opinions, of course. Based on other’s opinions, of course. YMMV. 🤡 😵‍💫 👍🏼

Tisra Til

2022-04-22 23:14:19 UTC

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Post by Henosis Sage

More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

thanks but its too much to absorb.
to me the core issues are about power / abuse of, who has it, how it is used and for what purposes. wealth money usually is a reasonable measure of power but not exclusively. over time different groups arise and pass. the mindsets may be similar but the direct connections of X group to today is of less importance imho. like the way the commons was dispersed from the people in common to individuals in the england overtime is a mindset event not so much an english monarchy peerage itself or their descendents (imho)
so i'm saying history can help inform why whats going on but only up to a point. the present context is more important.
like the weak excuse/claim/assumption that " all religions plagiarsed in the past, took stuff from prior texts/ideas" does not make it just fine and dandy what twitchell did in the 20th century to make up eckankar and the deceits of leaders and eckists ever since.
it's not an excuse at all ... it's irelevant bs. cheers

I don’t know if “present context” is more important. The present is built on the past, whether that be ten days, ten years, ten decades, or ten centuries. Or ten minutes, for that matter.
I’m being facetious, somewhat. The present is built on the past, and from that the future “path” can be somewhat inferred. Like Orwell and 1984, or Huxley and Brave New World, what is happening now, in the present, seems to be moving in the direction of the dystopian future they intuited and put forth, as food for the mill. Seems to get closer and closer, by the day.
Others have traced out in detail who is involved and how they are involved. I don’t think they have/had any intention to deceive people who happen upon their work.
No insult to Chomsky, but from what I have read - mainly from what you have posted - is coming in late to the party, so to speak, which others have covered in depth. Just my opinion, of course. But I think others have laid down the groundwork that makes what is happening today just exhibits A and B to what they saw coming down the pike. It’s a natural progression that is coming to fruition, iow.
It doesn’t require being a prophet, or a clairvoyant sage of the highest degree to see the end game. A one world government, a one world financial system (in the words of the “Great Reset” profiteer and spokesperson for the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, “you will own nothing and be happy.” There are plenty of videos of him touting that mantra; and proudly, I must say :) a one world medical (read fascist) system, which is already happening, and likely a one world language (Newspeak, anyone?). It’s been foretold, forecasted, for decades. Others definitely outside of the mainstream (of Big Media) have been blowing the trumpets for decades.
All my opinions, of course. Based on other’s opinions, of course. YMMV. 🤡 😵‍💫 👍🏼

As an aside to my previous comment: "Business As Usual."

Henosis Sage

2022-04-23 01:41:51 UTC

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Post by Henosis Sage

More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

thanks but its too much to absorb.
to me the core issues are about power / abuse of, who has it, how it is used and for what purposes. wealth money usually is a reasonable measure of power but not exclusively. over time different groups arise and pass. the mindsets may be similar but the direct connections of X group to today is of less importance imho. like the way the commons was dispersed from the people in common to individuals in the england overtime is a mindset event not so much an english monarchy peerage itself or their descendents (imho)
so i'm saying history can help inform why whats going on but only up to a point. the present context is more important.
like the weak excuse/claim/assumption that " all religions plagiarsed in the past, took stuff from prior texts/ideas" does not make it just fine and dandy what twitchell did in the 20th century to make up eckankar and the deceits of leaders and eckists ever since.
it's not an excuse at all ... it's irelevant bs. cheers

I don’t know if “present context” is more important. The present is built on the past, whether that be ten days, ten years, ten decades, or ten centuries. Or ten minutes, for that matter.
I’m being facetious, somewhat. The present is built on the past, and from that the future “path” can be somewhat inferred. Like Orwell and 1984, or Huxley and Brave New World, what is happening now, in the present, seems to be moving in the direction of the dystopian future they intuited and put forth, as food for the mill. Seems to get closer and closer, by the day.
Others have traced out in detail who is involved and how they are involved. I don’t think they have/had any intention to deceive people who happen upon their work.
No insult to Chomsky, but from what I have read - mainly from what you have posted - is coming in late to the party, so to speak, which others have covered in depth. Just my opinion, of course. But I think others have laid down the groundwork that makes what is happening today just exhibits A and B to what they saw coming down the pike. It’s a natural progression that is coming to fruition, iow.
It doesn’t require being a prophet, or a clairvoyant sage of the highest degree to see the end game. A one world government, a one world financial system (in the words of the “Great Reset” profiteer and spokesperson for the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, “you will own nothing and be happy.” There are plenty of videos of him touting that mantra; and proudly, I must say :) a one world medical (read fascist) system, which is already happening, and likely a one world language (Newspeak, anyone?). It’s been foretold, forecasted, for decades. Others definitely outside of the mainstream (of Big Media) have been blowing the trumpets for decades.
All my opinions, of course. Based on other’s opinions, of course. YMMV. 🤡 😵‍💫 👍🏼

As an aside to my previous comment: "Business As Usual."

I don't know. Maybe.

the US has controlled manipulated ( lied bullied and cheated) the world for decades already, hasn't it? now seems to me more like a return to a split world not a one world govt, as in like the cold war kind of but much worse for everyone, different. in the middle of all this i suspect climate change (and energy issues) will be the main driver reeking havoc globally for a very very long time. but dystopian fits in many ways. using nukes will only make things worse. the western corps, the wealthy, and politicians are loaded with psychopaths and sociopaths. if another MLK Jr or Mandela arose they'd soon be in prison or shot. just like julian assange is treated. generally few care that much these days (seems so?) at least that how it looks to me. what unfolds in india china russia and their satelite nations the next decade+ will be interesting to see too.

it's harder to make predictions about the future. :-)

Tisra Til

2022-04-23 01:53:38 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

thanks but its too much to absorb.
to me the core issues are about power / abuse of, who has it, how it is used and for what purposes. wealth money usually is a reasonable measure of power but not exclusively. over time different groups arise and pass. the mindsets may be similar but the direct connections of X group to today is of less importance imho. like the way the commons was dispersed from the people in common to individuals in the england overtime is a mindset event not so much an english monarchy peerage itself or their descendents (imho)
so i'm saying history can help inform why whats going on but only up to a point. the present context is more important.
like the weak excuse/claim/assumption that " all religions plagiarsed in the past, took stuff from prior texts/ideas" does not make it just fine and dandy what twitchell did in the 20th century to make up eckankar and the deceits of leaders and eckists ever since.
it's not an excuse at all ... it's irelevant bs. cheers

I don’t know if “present context” is more important. The present is built on the past, whether that be ten days, ten years, ten decades, or ten centuries. Or ten minutes, for that matter.
I’m being facetious, somewhat. The present is built on the past, and from that the future “path” can be somewhat inferred. Like Orwell and 1984, or Huxley and Brave New World, what is happening now, in the present, seems to be moving in the direction of the dystopian future they intuited and put forth, as food for the mill. Seems to get closer and closer, by the day.
Others have traced out in detail who is involved and how they are involved. I don’t think they have/had any intention to deceive people who happen upon their work.
No insult to Chomsky, but from what I have read - mainly from what you have posted - is coming in late to the party, so to speak, which others have covered in depth. Just my opinion, of course. But I think others have laid down the groundwork that makes what is happening today just exhibits A and B to what they saw coming down the pike. It’s a natural progression that is coming to fruition, iow.
It doesn’t require being a prophet, or a clairvoyant sage of the highest degree to see the end game. A one world government, a one world financial system (in the words of the “Great Reset” profiteer and spokesperson for the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, “you will own nothing and be happy.” There are plenty of videos of him touting that mantra; and proudly, I must say :) a one world medical (read fascist) system, which is already happening, and likely a one world language (Newspeak, anyone?). It’s been foretold, forecasted, for decades. Others definitely outside of the mainstream (of Big Media) have been blowing the trumpets for decades.
All my opinions, of course. Based on other’s opinions, of course. YMMV. 🤡 😵‍💫 👍🏼

As an aside to my previous comment: "Business As Usual."

I don't know. Maybe.
the US has controlled manipulated ( lied bullied and cheated) the world for decades already, hasn't it? now seems to me more like a return to a split world not a one world govt, as in like the cold war kind of but much worse for everyone, different. in the middle of all this i suspect climate change (and energy issues) will be the main driver reeking havoc globally for a very very long time. but dystopian fits in many ways. using nukes will only make things worse. the western corps, the wealthy, and politicians are loaded with psychopaths and sociopaths. if another MLK Jr or Mandela arose they'd soon be in prison or shot. just like julian assange is treated. generally few care that much these days (seems so?) at least that how it looks to me. what unfolds in india china russia and their satelite nations the next decade+ will be interesting to see too.
it's harder to make predictions about the future. :-)

“They” are well suited for government work. I think they have a specialty in that field of endeavor. It’s a positive boon! Lopping off the heads? “All in a day’s work. Alright lads. Get on with it!”

Henosis Sage

2022-04-23 02:06:33 UTC

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it's harder to make predictions about the future. :-)

sounds about right that.

you're in a happy funny mood today.

Tisra Til

2022-04-23 02:28:14 UTC

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it's harder to make predictions about the future. :-)

sounds about right that.
you're in a happy funny mood today.

Yes. I partook the holy "sacrament" earlier. Have been in a quite jovial mood.
Right living and right chemistry. Can't go wrong there. Right? No. seriously. I'm asking.

Can we get the Pope to weigh in on this? I'm assuming he has a take on what's been happening "behind the scenes." Really don't have a clue.
Could someone PLEASE fill me in on this? Forget the legal "bumbo-jumbo" that those thieving neo-cons are throwing at you. At me. At...... oh, forget it.

Tisra Til

2022-04-23 03:24:18 UTC

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it's harder to make predictions about the future. :-)

sounds about right that.
you're in a happy funny mood today.

The Fantastic art of Frank Frazetta would fit in perfectly with this scheme. The cherry on top… of mountains of bodies fought over for eons. It would be marvy.

He did a great job of capturing the most intense moment when all hell was just about to let loose. That’s hard to convey, artistically. I’m speaking from an artist’s perspective. I was really into it in my teens. Mostly portraits. Some full body works. Really into my favorite sport in high school - BMX racing. A lot of my art tries to capture the spirit, from the rider’s perspective. Good times. Wish they would return.

As the Tao goes, so goes………

Henosis Sage

2022-04-23 08:41:32 UTC

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it's harder to make predictions about the future. :-)

sounds about right that.
you're in a happy funny mood today.

The Fantastic art of Frank Frazetta would fit in perfectly with this scheme. The cherry on top… of mountains of bodies fought over for eons. It would be marvy.
He did a great job of capturing the most intense moment when all hell was just about to let loose. That’s hard to convey, artistically. I’m speaking from an artist’s perspective. I was really into it in my teens. Mostly portraits. Some full body works. Really into my favorite sport in high school - BMX racing. A lot of my art tries to capture the spirit, from the rider’s perspective. Good times. Wish they would return.
As the Tao goes, so goes………

yes. good to reflect on the good times.

Henosis Sage

2022-04-23 01:44:07 UTC

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More family squabbling. Business as usual.

with the neighbours listening in down the street .... lol

consider this bigger picture long view
Ambassador Chas W. Freeman, Jr. (USFS, Ret.)
Visiting Scholar, Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, Brown University
By video from Washington, DC 16 April 2022
Americans are now so worked up about Russian aggression that we are not thinking nearly as much as we should be about the epochal changes in the global situation that the war in Ukraine is catalyzing or how to cope with these. President Putin’s decision to use force to defend Moscow’s perceived security interests and the reactions of the United States, Europe, Japan, and Australia to this clearly mark “changes not seen in a century” [百年未有之大变局][1]—to coin a phrase. We are witnessing the end of the post-Cold War period and the passing of the post-World War II and Bretton Woods eras as well as other historic shifts in the world order.
Russia’s three-century-long effort to attach itself to the West has definitively failed. Sanctions are decoupling it from Europe and North America and leaving it with no alternative to dependence on China and India. Europe is no longer at peace. Germany and Japan are rearming. Finland and Sweden are applying for membership in NATO as Turkey sets it aside. With “Brexit,” Britain has forfeited influence in Europe and thereby diminished itself globally. The Middle East has ceased to be an American sphere of influence.
International law has lost almost all credibility. The future of the dollar-based international monetary system is in increasing doubt. The “exorbitant privileges” the United States has enjoyed for three-fourths of a century are at risk. As Africa, the Arab world, Latin America, and West and Southeast Asia join China and India in refusing to take sides in the US-Russia proxy war in Ukraine, they show that the world is much more divided between former imperialist powers and those they humiliated than between democracies and autocracies. There are ever fewer institutions that are sufficiently representative of shifting global subdivisions and power balances to bridge this divide.
The nightmare in Ukraine follows the replacement by the U.S. and China of efforts to seek mutual benefit with “great power rivalry” that seeks one-sided advantages. Sino-American relations are at a post-normalization nadir. The changes this and the widening Russo-American proxy war have catalyzed are accelerating the partition of the world into rival economic, technological, and military blocs – one led by the United States, another centered on China, and perhaps still others. Planetwide problems like climate change, environmental degradation, and nuclear proliferation as well as challenges like reinventing rules for trade and investment that enable greater global prosperity are being neglected. Whatever happened to 求同存异[2] – the founding principle of Sino-American relations?
Eventually, China and the United States will rediscover the merits of rapprochement. But, at seventy-nine, I do not expect to live to see this. This Sino-American split, like the Sino-Soviet split, is folly, but it will take time for statesmen to come to their senses and try to repair it.
cont'
https://chasfreeman.net/changes-not-seen-in-a-century/

recalling that it's Ukraine and it's last three Presidents who have killing their own people in the donbass for 8 long years. it was ukrainian neonazi militias whjo attacked and murdered ukrainians in Odessa, and in crimea and then blew up towns and people all over the donbass .... been doing for 8 years on and off. the evidence is clear even if the western media refuse to report on it accurately and the western empire politicans lie through their teeth.
"Many people today are asking the question: what is the reason for this special military operation? Why did President Vladimir Putin start it at the very moment when, as we have seen, the talks were taking place? What is the main reason? We heard America say that Russia was going to carry out this operation. India, like many other countries, did not suspect and did not think, but it happened."
In February 2014, the European Union helped broker a deal between the Ukrainian president and the opposition. The next morning, the signatories, namely representatives of the EU (Poland, France and Germany), were ignored by the opposition, which committed a coup d'état. They announced that they were creating a "government of victors", would abolish the special status of the Russian language, threatened to expel ethnic Russians from Crimea, and sent armed groups to storm the Supreme Soviet of Crimea. That's how the war started. Crimeans said they wanted nothing to do with such a Ukrainian government. As I said, they were under threat of violence from armed groups. In the east of Ukraine, too, people said that they did not support the coup d'état, asked to leave them alone. They have never attacked other regions of Ukraine. The putschists attacked them, calling them terrorists. The Ukrainian government called these people terrorists for eight long years.
We were able to stop this bloodshed. In February 2015, the Minsk agreements were signed, which provided for the assignment of a special status to the regions of eastern Ukraine: language, the right to have local police, special economic relations with adjacent Russian regions. In general, the same thing that the EU agreed on with Northern Kosovo and Serbia. In both cases, the European Union has failed to meet the obligations guaranteed by the signatures of EU members. For eight long years, the governments and presidents of Ukraine have repeatedly said that they are not going to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that they will move to plan "B". They continued to shell the territories of the self-proclaimed republics. We wanted the Europeans, the United States and Ukraine to admit that they were ignoring the document that was approved by the UN Security Council.
People don't want to turn their gaze back into history because they don't want to take into account events that don't paint them. But these specific events are connected with the actions of the United States and the "collective West", with their desire to dominate the whole world and demonstrate to everyone that there will be no multipolarity, but a unipolar world. [My Emphasis]
They can operate anywhere: in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yugoslavia. These countries are tens of thousands of kilometers away from the United States. When there are "threats" to their safety, they can do whatever they want. For example, to raze cities to the ground, as they did in Mosul (Iraq), in Raqqa (Syria). Russia warned its colleagues that right on our borders they are creating a bridgehead against us, pumping Ukraine with weapons, ignoring the legislation of this country, which completely banned the Russian language, incited the practice of neo-Nazi ideology. Nationalist battalions were formed, which were active against their own territory, which proclaimed independence, which was promised a special status inside Ukraine.
All this is due to the fact that Ukraine has become a springboard for NATO, for its expansion. They said that Ukraine would become part of NATO, no one could stop Ukraine if it had such a desire. Then President Zelensky said that he was thinking of possessing nuclear weapons. In November 2021, President Vladimir Putin invited the United States and NATO to sit down at the negotiating table, cool down a bit and discuss what we can do with legal security guarantees without further expansion of the alliance to the east. They refused. At this time, the Ukrainian army significantly intensified shelling of the republics in violation of all ceasefire regimes. We had no choice but to recognize them, to sign a mutual assistance treaty. And in response to their request to send our military units as part of a special military operation to protect their lives.
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/1810023/ co
Lavrov makes it very clear that Ukrainians will be allowed to chose what they want to be associated with ... that's always been the case.
the OCSE monitors have never seen russian military inside donbass ..... circa 8000 to 13000 donbass civilians and fighters have been killed by Ukraine forces up to Feb 2022 ...

thanks but its too much to absorb.
to me the core issues are about power / abuse of, who has it, how it is used and for what purposes. wealth money usually is a reasonable measure of power but not exclusively. over time different groups arise and pass. the mindsets may be similar but the direct connections of X group to today is of less importance imho. like the way the commons was dispersed from the people in common to individuals in the england overtime is a mindset event not so much an english monarchy peerage itself or their descendents (imho)
so i'm saying history can help inform why whats going on but only up to a point. the present context is more important.
like the weak excuse/claim/assumption that " all religions plagiarsed in the past, took stuff from prior texts/ideas" does not make it just fine and dandy what twitchell did in the 20th century to make up eckankar and the deceits of leaders and eckists ever since.
it's not an excuse at all ... it's irelevant bs. cheers

I don’t know if “present context” is more important. The present is built on the past, whether that be ten days, ten years, ten decades, or ten centuries. Or ten minutes, for that matter.
I’m being facetious, somewhat. The present is built on the past, and from that the future “path” can be somewhat inferred. Like Orwell and 1984, or Huxley and Brave New World, what is happening now, in the present, seems to be moving in the direction of the dystopian future they intuited and put forth, as food for the mill. Seems to get closer and closer, by the day.
Others have traced out in detail who is involved and how they are involved. I don’t think they have/had any intention to deceive people who happen upon their work.
No insult to Chomsky, but from what I have read - mainly from what you have posted - is coming in late to the party, so to speak, which others have covered in depth. Just my opinion, of course. But I think others have laid down the groundwork that makes what is happening today just exhibits A and B to what they saw coming down the pike. It’s a natural progression that is coming to fruition, iow.
It doesn’t require being a prophet, or a clairvoyant sage of the highest degree to see the end game. A one world government, a one world financial system (in the words of the “Great Reset” profiteer and spokesperson for the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, “you will own nothing and be happy.” There are plenty of videos of him touting that mantra; and proudly, I must say :) a one world medical (read fascist) system, which is already happening, and likely a one world language (Newspeak, anyone?). It’s been foretold, forecasted, for decades. Others definitely outside of the mainstream (of Big Media) have been blowing the trumpets for decades.
All my opinions, of course. Based on other’s opinions, of course. YMMV. 🤡 😵‍💫 👍🏼

As an aside to my previous comment: "Business As Usual."

ps re..TT SAYS.........I don’t know if “present context” is more important. The present is built on the past, whether that be ten days, ten years, ten decades, or ten centuries. Or ten minutes, for that matter......

Quite true that, fair point. one leads to the next. what a web we weave etc