Fake Master Rebazar Tarzs

[Etznab]

Kinpa says what? No record of Rebazar Tarzs plagiarizing anything? That it was Paul Twitchell who wrote down the words that Rebazar told him?

Let me try to put this another way. An author writes books claiming much of the content was spoken / dictated to him by a Rebazar Tarzs. Yet the content was found to be copied / plagiarized. Who did it? Who copied and plagiarized? The author? O.K. then what about Rebazar Tarzs? If Rebazar Tarzs was not the source? Did R.T. have any part at all? Did he even exist?

Here is a third way of saying it. Paul Twitchell claimed a whole lot of information was spoken to him, dictated to him even by Rebazar Tarzs. And if it was not spoken and dictated to Paul Twitchell by Rebazar Tarzs - because it was plagiarized, copied, etc. - then there wasn't any Rebazar Tarzs because that Rebazar Tarzs was fake!

IOW, he had no part in what was spoken / dictated to the author to write because the author wrote copied words from books instead. There was no Rebazar Tarzs in the picture here. IMO this, in so many words, is what Kinpa recently said. No proof that Rebazar Tarzs plagiarized.

Yeah. Rebazar Tarzs didn't plagiarize because he was fake! Paul Twitchell faked Rebazar Tarzs!

So this goes back to my original point on the other Fake Masters threads. Prove that Rebazar Tarzs had anything to do with speaking and dictating to Paul Twitchell. See? One can't prove that he existed because his words were never his words! He had no part in it! So just go and erase all the words in Eckankar literature that were copied and plagiarized, but that Paul Twitchell said were spoken by, or dictated by Rebazar Tarzs. Because when you do that, you also erase the fake masters!

Have at it.

[Kinpa]

Post by Etznab
Kinpa says what? No record of Rebazar Tarzs plagiarizing anything? That it was Paul Twitchell who wrote down the words that Rebazar told him?
Let me try to put this another way. An author writes books claiming much of the content was spoken / dictated to him by a Rebazar Tarzs. Yet the content was found to be copied / plagiarized. Who did it? Who copied and plagiarized? The author? O.K. then what about Rebazar Tarzs? If Rebazar Tarzs was not the source? Did R.T. have any part at all? Did he even exist?
Here is a third way of saying it. Paul Twitchell claimed a whole lot of information was spoken to him, dictated to him even by Rebazar Tarzs. And if it was not spoken and dictated to Paul Twitchell by Rebazar Tarzs - because it was plagiarized, copied, etc. - then there wasn't any Rebazar Tarzs because that Rebazar Tarzs was fake!
IOW, he had no part in what was spoken / dictated to the author to write because the author wrote copied words from books instead. There was no Rebazar Tarzs in the picture here. IMO this, in so many words, is what Kinpa recently said. No proof that Rebazar Tarzs plagiarized.
Yeah. Rebazar Tarzs didn't plagiarize because he was fake! Paul Twitchell faked Rebazar Tarzs!
So this goes back to my original point on the other Fake Masters threads. Prove that Rebazar Tarzs had anything to do with speaking and dictating to Paul Twitchell. See? One can't prove that he existed because his words were never his words! He had no part in it! So just go and erase all the words in Eckankar literature that were copied and plagiarized, but that Paul Twitchell said were spoken by, or dictated by Rebazar Tarzs. Because when you do that, you also erase the fake masters!
Have at it.

You already have made it clear to everyone. Rebazar Tarzs did nothing. Paul Twitchell would have to have done all of it, but then again, under the presumption that your opinion is correct, how could a "fake Master" plagiarize at all? You keep contradicting yourself and not really making any decent point. You're pissed off about the plagiarizing. Okay, fine, you have the right to be if you choose. Why should I care about that? It sounds to be a personal problem for you having nothing to do with me.

As for Paul Twitchell, well not all of his written words were not his. Perhaps some weren't, but many still were. That is why his name is listed as the author. As for plagiarized words attributed to Rebazar Tarzs that were actually lifted from one book or another, none of that proves the individual himself does not exist. I mean sure, you can see it as being that way, but that is your choice, not evidence that it is true. Those two are different things. So you make a choice about that and you believe your choice, nothing more. That is the only thing you can prove about it. That hasn't a thing to do with Rebazar however. That only has to do with Etznab. I don't need to erase any words or pieces of any books by PT. I have no issue with any of them. Only you do. Once again, a personal choice and problem.

Good luck with that I suppose, perhaps you ought to consult a professional to speak to about that. They might be able to offer you help in dealing with it.

[Henosis Sage]

Post by Kinpa

Post by Etznab
Kinpa says what? No record of Rebazar Tarzs plagiarizing anything? That it was Paul Twitchell who wrote down the words that Rebazar told him?
Let me try to put this another way. An author writes books claiming much of the content was spoken / dictated to him by a Rebazar Tarzs. Yet the content was found to be copied / plagiarized. Who did it? Who copied and plagiarized? The author? O.K. then what about Rebazar Tarzs? If Rebazar Tarzs was not the source? Did R.T. have any part at all? Did he even exist?
Here is a third way of saying it. Paul Twitchell claimed a whole lot of information was spoken to him, dictated to him even by Rebazar Tarzs. And if it was not spoken and dictated to Paul Twitchell by Rebazar Tarzs - because it was plagiarized, copied, etc. - then there wasn't any Rebazar Tarzs because that Rebazar Tarzs was fake!
IOW, he had no part in what was spoken / dictated to the author to write because the author wrote copied words from books instead. There was no Rebazar Tarzs in the picture here. IMO this, in so many words, is what Kinpa recently said. No proof that Rebazar Tarzs plagiarized.
Yeah. Rebazar Tarzs didn't plagiarize because he was fake! Paul Twitchell faked Rebazar Tarzs!
So this goes back to my original point on the other Fake Masters threads. Prove that Rebazar Tarzs had anything to do with speaking and dictating to Paul Twitchell. See? One can't prove that he existed because his words were never his words! He had no part in it! So just go and erase all the words in Eckankar literature that were copied and plagiarized, but that Paul Twitchell said were spoken by, or dictated by Rebazar Tarzs. Because when you do that, you also erase the fake masters!
Have at it.

You already have made it clear to everyone. Rebazar Tarzs did nothing. Paul Twitchell would have to have done all of it, but then again, under the presumption that your opinion is correct, how could a "fake Master" plagiarize at all? You keep contradicting yourself and not really making any decent point. You're pissed off about the plagiarizing. Okay, fine, you have the right to be if you choose. Why should I care about that? It sounds to be a personal problem for you having nothing to do with me.
As for Paul Twitchell, well not all of his written words were not his. Perhaps some weren't, but many still were. That is why his name is listed as the author. As for plagiarized words attributed to Rebazar Tarzs that were actually lifted from one book or another, none of that proves the individual himself does not exist. I mean sure, you can see it as being that way, but that is your choice, not evidence that it is true. Those two are different things. So you make a choice about that and you believe your choice, nothing more. That is the only thing you can prove about it. That hasn't a thing to do with Rebazar however. That only has to do with Etznab. I don't need to erase any words or pieces of any books by PT. I have no issue with any of them. Only you do. Once again, a personal choice and problem.
Good luck with that I suppose, perhaps you ought to consult a professional to speak to about that. They might be able to offer you help in dealing with it.

professionals generally accept nothing can help lying abusive pathological narcissists - the only thing that can help victims is to get as far away from them as possible and never have contact again. a bit hard on google groups to escape such people.

they tend to be obsessive and keep coming back to insult ridicule and abuse again and again and again.

it's all recorded. people only need to read whats written here to work it out .

that one extremist fanatic keep repeating the same stupid disingenuous vapid arguments about rebazar tarzs for decades trying to prove the double negative that he is not a fake, not a fiction, again proves he's not real ... but a complete fiction.

funny, marman, darwin, harold and twitchell all combine to prove the same thing. RT is all made up. much like kinpas self-evaluation of his great intelligence and mastery ..... lol

more proof here
It's all recorded.

PAUL TWITCHELL ECKANKAR HISTORY ARCHIVE
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-M0yAR0UPhPalFWRzl6YmlmM00

Best of PTHA TEHA
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B-M0yAR0UPhPSzVjakxZNUhoblE

PT: "Each knew that whatever was said was >>>>> TO BE RECORDED <<<<< for the whole of humanity. "
from DWTM BACK COVER https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-M0yAR0UPhPSXlQVUwxbTFyenc/view
and see 135 pages of twitchell copying SIXTEEN OTHER AUTHORS verbatim in dialogues with the master
AND PUTTING THOSE WORDS IN THE MOUTH OF A FICTIONAL CHARACTER CALLED REBAZAR TARZS

Twitchell recorded all his copying lifting plagiarising and his LIES about HIMSELF and his made up eck masters including rebazar tarzs' for the whole of humanity.

He did a great job of proving he was a prolific liar and that Eckankar is a fraud.

It's all recorded.

People only need to educate themselves about the massive amount of evidence rather than ignore it and falsely deny it exists.

But some people especially pathological narcissists will do and say anything to try and convince everyone else they are not total fools and liars and abusers.

Only a small handful still cling on to believe in the eckankar myths. Millions walked away from the lies and manipulations. From the fraud.

[Henosis Sage]

On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 01:10:38 UTC+10, Kinpa wrote:

Out of the mouths of babes (and idiots) .

" Rebazar Tarzs did nothing. "

Finally the truth.

Of course he did nothing. He never existed. It's a Fraud. A total Fraud.

And this lowlife asshole promotes this fraud and the lies to this day. What a sick creep.