Azutmai, a second look

[Etznab]

"Kinpa . . . thanks for whatever you did in the past. If you shook their tree . . . you have been of service. I have NO idea who you were . . . but evidently . . . we are much alike. In that respect alone . . . I humbly greet you as a friend."

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/kmeYGgGmAwAJ

Atzutmai, who's first post was about scant plagiarism, and who took a long time to clarify the meaning behind that.

The first line from this new poster was:

"To those who strongly oppose Paul’s scant use of plagiarism . . ."

So ... Kinpa WAS mentioned in this thread in which Fife participated and which Fife read. So ... maybe Fife deleted his post to me that read: "I don't know anything about Kinpa." BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T TRUE AND FIFE KNOWS THAT!

So this is not to say that Kinpa and Fife are the same (Why would Fife even imagine such a thing? Or that I stated such a thing?), or that Atzumai and Fife are the same. It is to show how Fife and Atzumai are both "partial" to "Kinpa Worm Tongue" and even Hostofoceans has nothing to say; about Kinpa and his vile attacks. Hostofoceans, who hates Eckankar bashing, could not even comment. Could not, like Fife, give examples, or even a single thread about Eckankar bashing. Nay! But a clear cut example about Eckankar bashing (by Kinpa) provided by me ... they were and are both mum!

Just pointing out some similarities.

Here is more of Atzumai about Kinpa:

"Etznab . . .

"who the heck cares about what someone else says. I mean . . . am * I * responsible for that person? He’s got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. Yes . . . I acknowledged kinpa . . . and I did it not really caring whether I get a response or not. That too . . . is his decision."

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/yFJH6IIyBQAJ

Acknowledged Kinpa. How about acknowledging the actions of Kinpa via the examples I gave? Atzumai writes: "He's got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. ... ."

Yeah. Except when someone asks you about them.

So the trasher and basher Atzumai (and Co.) gives a pass to Kinpa. Has nothing to do with him. Well, IMHO that was more than just a little bit curious.

[Etznab]

Post by Etznab
"Kinpa . . . thanks for whatever you did in the past. If you shook their tree . . . you have been of service. I have NO idea who you were . . . but evidently . . . we are much alike. In that respect alone . . . I humbly greet you as a friend."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/kmeYGgGmAwAJ
Atzutmai, who's first post was about scant plagiarism, and who took a long time to clarify the meaning behind that.
"To those who strongly oppose Paul’s scant use of plagiarism . . ."
So ... Kinpa WAS mentioned in this thread in which Fife participated and which Fife read. So ... maybe Fife deleted his post to me that read: "I don't know anything about Kinpa." BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T TRUE AND FIFE KNOWS THAT!
So this is not to say that Kinpa and Fife are the same (Why would Fife even imagine such a thing? Or that I stated such a thing?), or that Atzumai and Fife are the same. It is to show how Fife and Atzumai are both "partial" to "Kinpa Worm Tongue" and even Hostofoceans has nothing to say; about Kinpa and his vile attacks. Hostofoceans, who hates Eckankar bashing, could not even comment. Could not, like Fife, give examples, or even a single thread about Eckankar bashing. Nay! But a clear cut example about Eckankar bashing (by Kinpa) provided by me ... they were and are both mum!
Just pointing out some similarities.
"Etznab . . .
"who the heck cares about what someone else says. I mean . . . am * I * responsible for that person? He’s got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. Yes . . . I acknowledged kinpa . . . and I did it not really caring whether I get a response or not. That too . . . is his decision."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/yFJH6IIyBQAJ
Acknowledged Kinpa. How about acknowledging the actions of Kinpa via the examples I gave? Atzumai writes: "He's got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. ... ."
Yeah. Except when someone asks you about them.
So the trasher and basher Atzumai (and Co.) gives a pass to Kinpa. Has nothing to do with him. Well, IMHO that was more than just a little bit curious.

Kinpa, Fife, Azutmai a.r.e. posting names.

[Kinpa]

Post by Etznab

Post by Etznab
"Kinpa . . . thanks for whatever you did in the past. If you shook their tree . . . you have been of service. I have NO idea who you were . . . but evidently . . . we are much alike. In that respect alone . . . I humbly greet you as a friend."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/kmeYGgGmAwAJ
Atzutmai, who's first post was about scant plagiarism, and who took a long time to clarify the meaning behind that.
"To those who strongly oppose Paul’s scant use of plagiarism . . ."
So ... Kinpa WAS mentioned in this thread in which Fife participated and which Fife read. So ... maybe Fife deleted his post to me that read: "I don't know anything about Kinpa." BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T TRUE AND FIFE KNOWS THAT!
So this is not to say that Kinpa and Fife are the same (Why would Fife even imagine such a thing? Or that I stated such a thing?), or that Atzumai and Fife are the same. It is to show how Fife and Atzumai are both "partial" to "Kinpa Worm Tongue" and even Hostofoceans has nothing to say; about Kinpa and his vile attacks. Hostofoceans, who hates Eckankar bashing, could not even comment. Could not, like Fife, give examples, or even a single thread about Eckankar bashing. Nay! But a clear cut example about Eckankar bashing (by Kinpa) provided by me ... they were and are both mum!
Just pointing out some similarities.
"Etznab . . .
"who the heck cares about what someone else says. I mean . . . am * I * responsible for that person? He’s got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. Yes . . . I acknowledged kinpa . . . and I did it not really caring whether I get a response or not. That too . . . is his decision."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/yFJH6IIyBQAJ
Acknowledged Kinpa. How about acknowledging the actions of Kinpa via the examples I gave? Atzumai writes: "He's got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. ... ."
Yeah. Except when someone asks you about them.
So the trasher and basher Atzumai (and Co.) gives a pass to Kinpa. Has nothing to do with him. Well, IMHO that was more than just a little bit curious.

Kinpa, Fife, Azutmai a.r.e. posting names.

Of course they are. An account with a screen name is a requirement to post here, unless that has changed at some point. But it hasn't. The one important thing about those 3 accounts is that they all are not owned nor operated by me. End of story though I've no doubt that some of the bored folks here will assume and state otherwise. Be that is it may or may not, they are not associated with me in any way. They are at least one, and potentially two other people.

[Etznab]

Post by Kinpa

Post by Etznab

Post by Etznab
"Kinpa . . . thanks for whatever you did in the past. If you shook their tree . . . you have been of service. I have NO idea who you were . . . but evidently . . . we are much alike. In that respect alone . . . I humbly greet you as a friend."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/kmeYGgGmAwAJ
Atzutmai, who's first post was about scant plagiarism, and who took a long time to clarify the meaning behind that.
"To those who strongly oppose Paul’s scant use of plagiarism . . ."
So ... Kinpa WAS mentioned in this thread in which Fife participated and which Fife read. So ... maybe Fife deleted his post to me that read: "I don't know anything about Kinpa." BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T TRUE AND FIFE KNOWS THAT!
So this is not to say that Kinpa and Fife are the same (Why would Fife even imagine such a thing? Or that I stated such a thing?), or that Atzumai and Fife are the same. It is to show how Fife and Atzumai are both "partial" to "Kinpa Worm Tongue" and even Hostofoceans has nothing to say; about Kinpa and his vile attacks. Hostofoceans, who hates Eckankar bashing, could not even comment. Could not, like Fife, give examples, or even a single thread about Eckankar bashing. Nay! But a clear cut example about Eckankar bashing (by Kinpa) provided by me ... they were and are both mum!
Just pointing out some similarities.
"Etznab . . .
"who the heck cares about what someone else says. I mean . . . am * I * responsible for that person? He’s got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. Yes . . . I acknowledged kinpa . . . and I did it not really caring whether I get a response or not. That too . . . is his decision."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/yFJH6IIyBQAJ
Acknowledged Kinpa. How about acknowledging the actions of Kinpa via the examples I gave? Atzumai writes: "He's got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. ... ."
Yeah. Except when someone asks you about them.
So the trasher and basher Atzumai (and Co.) gives a pass to Kinpa. Has nothing to do with him. Well, IMHO that was more than just a little bit curious.

Kinpa, Fife, Azutmai a.r.e. posting names.

Of course they are. An account with a screen name is a requirement to post here, unless that has changed at some point. But it hasn't. The one important thing about those 3 accounts is that they all are not owned nor operated by me. End of story though I've no doubt that some of the bored folks here will assume and state otherwise. Be that is it may or may not, they are not associated with me in any way. They are at least one, and potentially two other people.

Kinpa wrote:

"[...] The one important thing about those 3 accounts is that they all are not owned nor operated by me. [...] Be that is it may or may not, they are not associated with me in any way. [... .]"

Kinpa, Fife, Azutmai are the three names I wrote about. So which one used the Kinpa name to write that post?

Kinpa. Isn't Kinpa one of your posting names for years already? Who IS it operated by?

[Kinpa]

Post by Etznab

Post by Kinpa

Post by Etznab

Post by Etznab
"Kinpa . . . thanks for whatever you did in the past. If you shook their tree . . . you have been of service. I have NO idea who you were . . . but evidently . . . we are much alike. In that respect alone . . . I humbly greet you as a friend."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/kmeYGgGmAwAJ
Atzutmai, who's first post was about scant plagiarism, and who took a long time to clarify the meaning behind that.
"To those who strongly oppose Paul’s scant use of plagiarism . . ."
So ... Kinpa WAS mentioned in this thread in which Fife participated and which Fife read. So ... maybe Fife deleted his post to me that read: "I don't know anything about Kinpa." BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T TRUE AND FIFE KNOWS THAT!
So this is not to say that Kinpa and Fife are the same (Why would Fife even imagine such a thing? Or that I stated such a thing?), or that Atzumai and Fife are the same. It is to show how Fife and Atzumai are both "partial" to "Kinpa Worm Tongue" and even Hostofoceans has nothing to say; about Kinpa and his vile attacks. Hostofoceans, who hates Eckankar bashing, could not even comment. Could not, like Fife, give examples, or even a single thread about Eckankar bashing. Nay! But a clear cut example about Eckankar bashing (by Kinpa) provided by me ... they were and are both mum!
Just pointing out some similarities.
"Etznab . . .
"who the heck cares about what someone else says. I mean . . . am * I * responsible for that person? He’s got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. Yes . . . I acknowledged kinpa . . . and I did it not really caring whether I get a response or not. That too . . . is his decision."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.religion.eckankar/AC9nlkiwQF0/yFJH6IIyBQAJ
Acknowledged Kinpa. How about acknowledging the actions of Kinpa via the examples I gave? Atzumai writes: "He's got his reasons. They have nothing to do with me. ... ."
Yeah. Except when someone asks you about them.
So the trasher and basher Atzumai (and Co.) gives a pass to Kinpa. Has nothing to do with him. Well, IMHO that was more than just a little bit curious.

Kinpa, Fife, Azutmai a.r.e. posting names.

Of course they are. An account with a screen name is a requirement to post here, unless that has changed at some point. But it hasn't. The one important thing about those 3 accounts is that they all are not owned nor operated by me. End of story though I've no doubt that some of the bored folks here will assume and state otherwise. Be that is it may or may not, they are not associated with me in any way. They are at least one, and potentially two other people.

"[...] The one important thing about those 3 accounts is that they all are not owned nor operated by me. [...] Be that is it may or may not, they are not associated with me in any way. [... .]"
Kinpa, Fife, Azutmai are the three names I wrote about. So which one used the Kinpa name to write that post?
Kinpa. Isn't Kinpa one of your posting names for years already? Who IS it operated by?

You have used my full name repeatedly here. You know damned well who I am. Furthermore, I am not the person using any of those other names, and I have no idea who they are. There is nothing curious about any of it other than that the one way you interpret any similarities in opinion, or shared opinions as having had to come from the same person. That is 100% assumption on your part, as is much of what you've been writing here over the years. I have ONE posting name only. That has always been the case. Feel free to prove otherwise if you'd like, but note that using another email addy to post here isn't the same as using another name.

I've multiple email addresses and have accidentally used only one other than this account, and that only a very few times. That account is not associated with the other 3 accounts you seem to believe are me, only because these others might share an opinion. Guess what? Out in the real world you can find any number of different people that all share the same opinion as each other, and those opinions might also disagree with yours. Perfectly normal, unless you haven't crawled out from behind your computer and gone physically into society for any reason for numerous years. This isn't rocket science, so why do YOU have such a tremendous issue with it? No one else seems to care nearly as much about it as you.

Kinpa is me, and this account has always been operated by me alone. Deal with that fact. And while you're at it, go get yourself a life of some sort. Obsessing about Eckankar and Paul Twitchell and any plagiarism to this extent isn't healthy, and certainly hasn't accomplished anything. Eckankar exists and it will continue to exist long after your life has ended. Simple fact and one you've little choice in. The organization is doing fine and will continue on that way for a very long time. Your "truth" has nothing that is able to change that, ever. You just aren't THAT important, and nothing you've discovered is important enough to change anything. Have a nice life with your obsession here on ARE, because it has no life anywhere else.