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"Experimental" Vaccines
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Etznab
2021-07-29 13:46:40 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.

The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.

https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/

Under # 1.

"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."

Here is the conclusion

"Conclusion

"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."

https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/

Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!

If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?

I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Etznab
2021-07-29 13:54:14 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products


Etznab
2021-07-29 13:57:36 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
2:17 experimental vaccines

http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY

Does this guy know what he is talking about to call them experimental vaccines?
Etznab
2021-07-29 14:04:49 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
2:17 experimental vaccines
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
Does this guy know what he is talking about to call them experimental vaccines?
He said unlicensed and experimental. @4:47 And that video was from about a month ago?

http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY

I've become skeptical of information regardless the source. Even alleged sources such as "Godman" "Ancient 500+-year-old master", etc. Better to look at the facts.

So right now I'm trying to determine if the vaccines can be classified as unlicensed and experimental. If they are "experimental", then perhaps every American, or person in the world, has a right to tell them to shove that vaccine up their ass!
Etznab
2021-07-30 01:39:46 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
2:17 experimental vaccines
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
Does this guy know what he is talking about to call them experimental vaccines?
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
I've become skeptical of information regardless the source. Even alleged sources such as "Godman" "Ancient 500+-year-old master", etc. Better to look at the facts.
So right now I'm trying to determine if the vaccines can be classified as unlicensed and experimental. If they are "experimental", then perhaps every American, or person in the world, has a right to tell them to shove that vaccine up their ass!
16:21


16:30
can't coerce people to take experimental products

17:50
These are still experimental medical products. They're not licensed yet.

STILL EXPERIMENTAL!!!

Is he stretching the truth? or what?
Etznab
2021-07-30 02:32:28 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
2:17 experimental vaccines
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
Does this guy know what he is talking about to call them experimental vaccines?
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
I've become skeptical of information regardless the source. Even alleged sources such as "Godman" "Ancient 500+-year-old master", etc. Better to look at the facts.
So right now I'm trying to determine if the vaccines can be classified as unlicensed and experimental. If they are "experimental", then perhaps every American, or person in the world, has a right to tell them to shove that vaccine up their ass!
16:21
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
16:30
can't coerce people to take experimental products
17:50
These are still experimental medical products. They're not licensed yet.
STILL EXPERIMENTAL!!!
Is he stretching the truth? or what?
47.45
49:48
50:32
50:54
53:30 - lipids
55:35 - unlike the usual vaccines
56:20 - doesn't stay put ... concentrates in ovaries and testes ... 20% lipids?
58:08 genotoxcicity studies were not performed
100:38 - RNA used was ...
103:00 - cooking the books a little bit
105:53
106:30 - spike
107:43 - has a tail
108:16 - spike gets cleaved off
108:21 - spike circulating for 2 weeks to a month is toxic?
109:00 - IS THE VACCINE SPIKE MORE OR LESS DANGEROUS THAN THE ACTUAL VIRUS SPIKE?
110:02 - Is it safe?
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
Etznab
2021-07-30 02:52:15 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
2:17 experimental vaccines
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
Does this guy know what he is talking about to call them experimental vaccines?
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
I've become skeptical of information regardless the source. Even alleged sources such as "Godman" "Ancient 500+-year-old master", etc. Better to look at the facts.
So right now I'm trying to determine if the vaccines can be classified as unlicensed and experimental. If they are "experimental", then perhaps every American, or person in the world, has a right to tell them to shove that vaccine up their ass!
16:21
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
16:30
can't coerce people to take experimental products
17:50
These are still experimental medical products. They're not licensed yet.
STILL EXPERIMENTAL!!!
Is he stretching the truth? or what?
47.45
49:48
50:32
50:54
53:30 - lipids
55:35 - unlike the usual vaccines
56:20 - doesn't stay put ... concentrates in ovaries and testes ... 20% lipids?
58:08 genotoxcicity studies were not performed
100:38 - RNA used was ...
103:00 - cooking the books a little bit
105:53
106:30 - spike
107:43 - has a tail
108:16 - spike gets cleaved off
108:21 - spike circulating for 2 weeks to a month is toxic?
109:00 - IS THE VACCINE SPIKE MORE OR LESS DANGEROUS THAN THE ACTUAL VIRUS SPIKE?
110:02 - Is it safe?
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
114:50 - No one really knows how much of the spike is being produced.
116:24 - Some of the symptoms people are reporting (after vaccine) are similar to to that of COVID and long COVID.
117:45 - All of this stuff should have been figured out before it went to humans.
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
121:42 - Reactivation of latent viruses ... virus reactivation

Just making notes because it's a long video. I didn't finish it yet.
Etznab
2021-07-30 12:47:42 UTC
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
2:17 experimental vaccines
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
Does this guy know what he is talking about to call them experimental vaccines?
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
I've become skeptical of information regardless the source. Even alleged sources such as "Godman" "Ancient 500+-year-old master", etc. Better to look at the facts.
So right now I'm trying to determine if the vaccines can be classified as unlicensed and experimental. If they are "experimental", then perhaps every American, or person in the world, has a right to tell them to shove that vaccine up their ass!
16:21
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
16:30
can't coerce people to take experimental products
17:50
These are still experimental medical products. They're not licensed yet.
STILL EXPERIMENTAL!!!
Is he stretching the truth? or what?
47.45
49:48
50:32
50:54
53:30 - lipids
55:35 - unlike the usual vaccines
56:20 - doesn't stay put ... concentrates in ovaries and testes ... 20% lipids?
58:08 genotoxcicity studies were not performed
100:38 - RNA used was ...
103:00 - cooking the books a little bit
105:53
106:30 - spike
107:43 - has a tail
108:16 - spike gets cleaved off
108:21 - spike circulating for 2 weeks to a month is toxic?
109:00 - IS THE VACCINE SPIKE MORE OR LESS DANGEROUS THAN THE ACTUAL VIRUS SPIKE?
110:02 - Is it safe?
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
114:50 - No one really knows how much of the spike is being produced.
116:24 - Some of the symptoms people are reporting (after vaccine) are similar to to that of COVID and long COVID.
117:45 - All of this stuff should have been figured out before it went to humans.
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
121:42 - Reactivation of latent viruses ... virus reactivation
Just making notes because it's a long video. I didn't finish it yet.
@ 2:23 - emergency use ... is an experimental product ... is not yet licensed



2:53 - There has to be complete disclosure of risk.

4:21 - You cannot coerce. You cannot entice.

6:20 - Herd immunity?

7:35 - Substituting their opinion for evidence based medicine.

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Long story short. The keyword appears to be "experimental". In order to clarify the bioethics, this has to be clarified. The guy seems to know what he is talking about, has the credentials, etc.

@ 11:23 He says: "You have the right to accept, or not except the vaccine product. Particularly an experimental one.
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The key word appears to be "experimental" and how that is used. I checked this subject and numerous sites said the vaccines were not experimental, but approved for use, etc. Other sites disagree and place the vaccines into an experimental context. For example.
The present COVID-19 vaccines violate all 10 tenets of the Nuremberg Medical Ethics Code as a guide for permitted medical experiments.
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Under # 1.
"The risks and benefits of a vaccine must be explained in full. Only until such time, can we say categorically that they (the people) are truly ‘informed’ and ethically consented."
Here is the conclusion
"Conclusion
"Based on the above comments relating to the 10 points of the Nuremberg Regulations for Human Research, it is clear that this trial is continuing on an illegal basis. Subjects cannot be coerced as they are now. Although not mentioned above, it is also reasonable to state that the introduction of or threat to introduce Vaccine Passports, as well as the threat to not lift lockdowns, masking regulations, restaurant occupancy and so on, unless and until a certain percentage of the population has been vaccinated (note that we do not mean “immunized”), is an example of malicious coercion! We hold that based on the tenets laid out very clearly in the Nuremberg Code that the mRNA/DNA vaccine studies must be stopped now, the investigators charged with crimes against humanity, and along with them, the government leaders held accountable especially those who have supported this experimentation."
https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/
Add to that the amount of censorship by tech companies to prevent the distribution of certain facts about the vaccines and their effects. It does not seem ethical to me. And the U.S. president saying the unvaccinated were the pandemic? Because isn't that discrimination of the worst kind? I mean associating naturally immunized individuals as a "pandemic" and / or the cause of spreading the virus? Does Biden know the integrity of all Americans immune systems? How many have had the virus already, have recovered, have antibodies or are able to fend off the virus naturally? Including children? But his slip of the tongue tried to place people into a category of "unvaccinated" and then characterized them a certain way. In some respects he looks like a Dr. Mengele, if you ask me. And they are like Dr. Mengeles who want to force vaccines on everybody. Men, women and children!
If they know about dangers from the vaccines an don't know the" longer-term" effects of the vaccines, does that classify them as "experimental"?
I see there are relevant points on both sides of the argument. BTW, have they had time to study babies, or children born to vaccinated mothers? How many year-old children were they able to look at so far? And if they make children take the vaccine, without the child's consent, Does that constitute an experiment?
Experimental products
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
2:17 experimental vaccines
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
Does this guy know what he is talking about to call them experimental vaccines?
http://youtu.be/bwr4Wm9pREY
I've become skeptical of information regardless the source. Even alleged sources such as "Godman" "Ancient 500+-year-old master", etc. Better to look at the facts.
So right now I'm trying to determine if the vaccines can be classified as unlicensed and experimental. If they are "experimental", then perhaps every American, or person in the world, has a right to tell them to shove that vaccine up their ass!
16:21
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
16:30
can't coerce people to take experimental products
17:50
These are still experimental medical products. They're not licensed yet.
STILL EXPERIMENTAL!!!
Is he stretching the truth? or what?
47.45
49:48
50:32
50:54
53:30 - lipids
55:35 - unlike the usual vaccines
56:20 - doesn't stay put ... concentrates in ovaries and testes ... 20% lipids?
58:08 genotoxcicity studies were not performed
100:38 - RNA used was ...
103:00 - cooking the books a little bit
105:53
106:30 - spike
107:43 - has a tail
108:16 - spike gets cleaved off
108:21 - spike circulating for 2 weeks to a month is toxic?
109:00 - IS THE VACCINE SPIKE MORE OR LESS DANGEROUS THAN THE ACTUAL VIRUS SPIKE?
110:02 - Is it safe?
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
114:50 - No one really knows how much of the spike is being produced.
116:24 - Some of the symptoms people are reporting (after vaccine) are similar to to that of COVID and long COVID.
117:45 - All of this stuff should have been figured out before it went to humans.
http://youtu.be/DmW6HF7cm3c
121:42 - Reactivation of latent viruses ... virus reactivation
Just making notes because it's a long video. I didn't finish it yet.
@ 2:23 - emergency use ... is an experimental product ... is not yet licensed
http://youtu.be/8vRugeLK2FA
2:53 - There has to be complete disclosure of risk.
4:21 - You cannot coerce. You cannot entice.
6:20 - Herd immunity?
7:35 - Substituting their opinion for evidence based medicine.
***
Long story short. The keyword appears to be "experimental". In order to clarify the bioethics, this has to be clarified. The guy seems to know what he is talking about, has the credentials, etc.
@ 11:23 He says: "You have the right to accept, or not except the vaccine product. Particularly an experimental one.
Sorry, I didn't watch the videos. I get a lot of my information from TheHighwire.com. They have researchers, scientists, doctors and whistleblowers on there who question much of what is going on on the "official" channels.
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