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"The petition was initiated by Manila-based internet radio Global Talk News Radio and Phil-BRICS Strategic Studies, a think tank based in the Philippines. It fundamentally calls on the WHO 'to start the inquiry and investigation into credible and even evident presence of the COVID-19 virus as far back as April to November-December, 2019 in countries such as the US, Spain, Italy, France, and even Japan.
"The petition states that based on reports, the presence of the COVID-19 virus, which is evidenced by archived blood serum or municipal sewage samples from these countries, has been very widely reported in international medical journals and media.
"The petition also pointed out that the Fort Detrick biological laboratory suffered a laboratory incident in July 2019 causing the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to shut down the facility in August 2019 due to 'serious safety violations, in particular, relating to the disposal of dangerous materials' or a 'lab-leak' that is believed to have caused strange 'vaping sickness' and 'strange flu' in the US at that time.
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"The diagnoses of US Army athletes who were taken ill during the World Military Games held in Wuhan, China from 13 to 18 October, 2019 must be declassified, especially because the wife of a Fort Detrick employee reportedly collapsed in the middle of a cycling event.
"Intriguingly, the Times of Israel reported in April 2020 that the 'US alerted Israel, NATO to disease outbreak in China in November (2019) – TV report'. So, how did the US know?”
"According to Laurel, 'contact-tracing must be diligently enforced because since the incubation period of COVID-19 takes about two weeks, the logical conclusion is those athletes had contracted the virus way before they entered Chinese borders.' "
https://theaseanpost.com/article/will-who-inspect-fort-detrick-covid-origins
I believe the usual disposal system was flooded for a time and so they had to use an alternate disposal system at Fort Detrick.
In any case, COVID-19 as far back as April 2019? Strange vaping sickness / flu? What's all that about?
What are the chances COVID-19 originated in U.S. (or some other country) and U.S. decided to blame it on China? That it supposedly leaked from a laboratory is telling, IMO. but I doubt that Wuhan was the only laboratory where gain of function research was happening. It was banned in U.S. during Obama administration, but started up again after Trump came into office.
As with Eckankar history research, sometimes it's better not to believe anything unless you can actually verify it yourself.
So it wasn't that I just believed what David Lane, Ford Johnson and others said. It wasn't that I believed what Eckists and even the leader of Eckankar said. No. Rather, I looked at the alleged plagiarisms myself and checked the sources. I found MULTIPLE EXAMPLES of copied materials said to come from Rebazar Tarzs, or another eck Master. So I didn't need David Lane to explain it to me and I didn't need Harold Klemp to explain it either when I could see it for myself. A whole archive of the copied passages is available for anybody else who also wants to see for themselves.
With COVID-19 origins there are so many stories, but So what? when the origin hasn't been positively isolated. The stories and timeline have changed again and again, which usually (IMO) indicates the stories weren't entirely true to begin with.
Australia called for an international, open investigation into the
history and origins of the outbreak and China got very upset with us
indeed about it. Still trying to "punish" us for asking questions they
regard as unwanted or unfriendly.
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Help destroy CoS and protect innocent people
There is a major ongoing investigation by members of congress about the Project Defuse allegations and the origin of COVID 19 in general.
On an unrelated subject, I can remember when the "bombshells" of plagiarism and "pseudo history concerning Eckankar were topics of discussion here at a.r.e. Many people didn't want to believe; what were then merely "allegations". Including me! However (concerning the other subject of Project Defuse), congress does not have the handicap of so many individual researchers investigating Eckankar history". If a handful of people here could verify so many allegations then surely the U.S. Senate can verify whether Fauci supported and funded gain of function research concerning bat viruses. And whether he KNOWINGLY LIED to Congress!
44:44
http://youtu.be/RNjr4WEY1ao
It's a long video best viewed in context. IMHO though, the information about five minutes before and after 44:44 is especially telling.The information source comes from a book where the author presents facts and lets the reader decide.
44:44
http://youtu.be/RNjr4WEY1ao
A best seller, it follows on the heels of other information many people have dismissed as conspiracy theory, or just plain untrue. The facts show that viruses were created by AMERICA and in AMERICA long before COVID-19! And because some of those viruses had escaped, the Obama administration shut down certain gain of function research. It was continued, however, and sent offshore to a lab in Wuhan China.
Regardless the true origins of COVID-19, the facts show that America and Anthony Fauci WERE involved with GOF research.
It's just a hunch for me at this point, but I suspect that when the true origins of COVID-19 are revealed to the world, we will then see not only the American "Pluto Return" (1st time since the revolution in 1776), but also the meaning of Pluto in Aquarius.
I admired your posts about the issue of plagiarism in Eckankar, because
you followed your path objectively and posted what you found openly and
completely, as it turned up. You also didn't resort to personal attacks
and name calling in the face of people doing just that to you,
attempting to discredit or at least distract the poster (you) and the
audience from what you were trying to do.
IMO, that's just what China seems NOT to want to happen with the
originis of COVID - "don't look into it yourself, there's no need for
that. We'll provide a complete package of approved information instead
and save everybody the trouble."
Makes me appreciate the risks taken by real, credible and objective
investigative journalists.
My problem with the whole pro/anti-vax or pro/anti- public health
measures with regard to COVID-19 is that people seem to believe that
from the first day they hear about it, they have to choose a side and
stick to it, at all costs, in the face of any and every piece of
information they come across. We don't want none of this reasoned,
informed and dispassionate evaluation and checkable facts, no! You've
got to batten down the hatches and shut out anything that doesn't sound
like what you want to hear! (By "you" I hope everyone understands what I
mean, it's "you" from the point of view of a single-minded fanatic on
either side of the debate). I think you guys know I'm pro-vax and
support certain restrictions in order to limit the damage done by this
virus, but that doesn't mean I can't at least hear POV's or arguments
that differ to mine. It also doesn't mean I'm totally behind all the
decisions made by govt's and health dept's, far from it. I think they've
blown it badly over a lot of the issues. But, in general I'm in support
of mass vaccination in general, and believe there are times and cases
where govt's do need to make some things compulsory and some things
proscribed for the sake of people's lives and health, not to mention
business and the economy in the long view.
THere are plenty of pro-vax / pro-lockdown fanatics too who I think are
just as misguided, pig-headed and ignorant as some of the so-called
activists on the other side. My problem is those who absolutely will not
consider anything that differs from the position they took from the
start. A lot of people on both sides knew they'd be anti-this or that
before they knew why, just because they're that kind of person. And they
stick with it because they're more afraid to be seen as "backing down"
than because they actually believe in it.
Anyway, here in West Aussie we are just about to finally get a real wave
of COVID. Omicron is here and unlike any other point in the last 2
years, it really looks like it can't be stamped out this time. This has
to have been one of the best places in the world to have been living
during COVID... how many other places could I have maintained making a
living in live entertainment and events, for the public, and the same
goes for the people I work with like musicians, dancers and dance
instructors, that type of thing. Mr. McGowan, our state Premier (like a
US state Governor) really can take a bow for the last 2 years and he
enjoyed unprecedented public approval till recently, thanks in large
part to the Hard Border policy. It helps being one of the most isolated
cities in the world, which till now has always been a bad thing. But for
the last half of last year I had the busiest, best and most lucrative
phase of my working life *ever*, following easily the best winter of my
freelance career (it's seasonal, and usually I need to get a casual
winter McJob somewhere to get me through, not last year though). But
now, Premier McGowan seems damned if he does and damned if he doesn't
for any decision he makes... keep the border shut, open it back up, they
always shriek over the mass media how wrong and evil he is no matter
what. That's because it's such a divisive issue.
I work at a crewing agency, among other companies. We supply hands for
concert production normally, but of course there's been none of that for
the last 2 years. We've had work but it's changed a lot. At first about
1/3 of our crew refused to get vaccinated, and as a result could not get
any shifts.... what's less well-known is that if somewhere like that
agency sent unvaccinated crew to a venue *with* a vax mandate, they'd be
hit with a $100,000 fine potentially each breach. So no, they're not
going to risk the entire company and everybody's livelihood just to help
this minority of people make the point that they really don't want to
take their medicine.
You guys know my views on this but it still drives me nuts... the exact
same people who smoke, drink, go out clubbing and take dodgy pills they
buy from street dealers and sometimes even more serious drugs, suddenly
get all excited about taking one drop of actual medicine. They eat
artery-clogging junk, and as if we aren't exposed to definitely much
worse contaminants in the air we breathe, the food we eat and the water
we drink *every day*, but they feel better if they refuse to take a free
jab of something to give them immunity to a disease with the potential
to make them extremely sick. Fine, free choice, do what the hell you
want, BUT... it's not all about the self either - the reason you want
immunity to a virus is not just for number one but to reduce your
contageousness to OTHER people. I really, really don't want to be the
one to pass it on to my elderly beloved family members. OK I can still
do that if I'm vaccinated, but my viral load will be lower if I am and
that does reduce my chance of transmitting it to others. No, I don't
have links to the research to hand, but that's what I've read, and if I
can look it up, so can anyone else. I don't have to be the one to
provide the references. The people who would challenge me on that are
only going to deny them anyway.
In the end, all but just 3 people out of 300 hundred at that crewing
agency changed their minds and got a jab so they could keep working.
Let me make a point here... nobody is *making* anyone go and get it.
Even a mandate doesn't mean you have to do it... what it means is, you
still DON'T have to get your jab, but the employer, venue owner etc has
the right to not use you to work there if you don't. And that's THEIR
choice, THEIR freedom to choose... do we deny them THEIR choice too? As
I understand it the majority of them do it for insurance or other
commercial reasons first, but some believe in and support virus safety
rules. So, we should be allowed to make our own individual choice about
getting the jab, but business owners can't regarding which contractors
they're willing to use? I don't see that at all.
The point being, except for places like hospitals and nursing homes,
assuming you want to keep your job there, NOBODY is actually being made
to have the jab, not by any government in Australia I'm aware of.
But, as I took pains to point out, if I'm wrong I'm open to hearing
about it, or at least considering differing viewpoints. If anyone can
correct something wrong that I've said by all means please do.