Discussion:
Does Ukriane have biological weapons or only weapons research and dangerous bio materials ?
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Henosis Sage
2022-03-10 12:48:39 UTC
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bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....

USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.

via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today


in congress under oath ..... oops

"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.

there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???

Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.

"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.

"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.

"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.

Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
---

The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.

The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.

"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.

---

Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals

sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888

AND

The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.

"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.

"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.

=========================

the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE

it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.

who knows what else she knows but did not say?
Henosis Sage
2022-03-10 12:58:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Henosis Sage
bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....
USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.
via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today
http://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc
in congress under oath ..... oops
"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.
there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???
Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.
"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.
"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.
"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.
Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
---
The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
---
Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals
sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888
AND
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.
"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.
=========================
the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE
it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.
who knows what else she knows but did not say?
and again fwiw

BEWARE WHAT YOU ARE BEING SOLD VIA THE MEDIA AND TALKING HEADS ...

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denied Ukrainian claims that Russian troops had shelled an operating maternity hospital in Ukraine. The building had been used as a base by the far-right Azov Battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the top Russian diplomat claimed on Thursday, during a press conference in Turkey.

The hospital in question has been for days under the control of a Ukrainian paramilitary group and Moscow presented evidence of this to the UN Security Council several days ago, Lavrov said.

“The Azov Battalion (A NEO-NAZI GROUP) and other radicals kicked out all the expectant mothers, the nurses and other staff members. It was the base of the Azov ultra-radicals,” he said, speaking after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba in Turkey’s Antalya.

Lavrov added that reports coming from Ukraine that contradict this were obviously meant to “manipulate global public opinion” about what is happening in the country, and he also chastised Western media for taking part in the propaganda effort.

“I have seen reports … that were really emotional. Unfortunately, the other side of the situation, which would allow one to form an objective opinion, was not given any prominence,” Lavrov said.

.................

JUST ANOTHER WILD ACCUSATION PROPAGANDA PIECE THAT'S BEEN DEBUNKED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE NO BODIES, NO NURSES, NO PATIENTS, NO NOTHING .......

THE BS IS BEING PUSHED ALL THE TIME ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND CHERNOBYL TOO.

ALL LIES ... WHICH END UP BEING IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE FALSE ONCE PUT INTO THE WILD ....

LIKE THE MYTH/PROPGANDA IRAQI SOLDIERS WERE THROWING NEW BORN KUWAITI BABIES ON THE FLOOR TO SEND THEIR HUMID-CRIBS BACK TO IRAQ IN 1990/91

THAT LIE WAS PROVIDED IN CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY......... BEWARE PEOPLES
Henosis Sage
2022-03-11 03:27:41 UTC
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Post by Henosis Sage
Post by Henosis Sage
bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....
USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.
via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today
http://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc
in congress under oath ..... oops
"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.
there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???
Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.
"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.
"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.
"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.
Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
---
The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
---
Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals
sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888
AND
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.
"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.
=========================
the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE
it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.
who knows what else she knows but did not say?
and again fwiw
BEWARE WHAT YOU ARE BEING SOLD VIA THE MEDIA AND TALKING HEADS ...
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denied Ukrainian claims that Russian troops had shelled an operating maternity hospital in Ukraine. The building had been used as a base by the far-right Azov Battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the top Russian diplomat claimed on Thursday, during a press conference in Turkey.
The hospital in question has been for days under the control of a Ukrainian paramilitary group and Moscow presented evidence of this to the UN Security Council several days ago, Lavrov said.
“The Azov Battalion (A NEO-NAZI GROUP) and other radicals kicked out all the expectant mothers, the nurses and other staff members. It was the base of the Azov ultra-radicals,” he said, speaking after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba in Turkey’s Antalya.
Lavrov added that reports coming from Ukraine that contradict this were obviously meant to “manipulate global public opinion” about what is happening in the country, and he also chastised Western media for taking part in the propaganda effort.
“I have seen reports … that were really emotional. Unfortunately, the other side of the situation, which would allow one to form an objective opinion, was not given any prominence,” Lavrov said.
.................
JUST ANOTHER WILD ACCUSATION PROPAGANDA PIECE THAT'S BEEN DEBUNKED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE NO BODIES, NO NURSES, NO PATIENTS, NO NOTHING .......
THE BS IS BEING PUSHED ALL THE TIME ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND CHERNOBYL TOO.
ALL LIES ... WHICH END UP BEING IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE FALSE ONCE PUT INTO THE WILD ....
LIKE THE MYTH/PROPGANDA IRAQI SOLDIERS WERE THROWING NEW BORN KUWAITI BABIES ON THE FLOOR TO SEND THEIR HUMID-CRIBS BACK TO IRAQ IN 1990/91
THAT LIE WAS PROVIDED IN CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY......... BEWARE PEOPLES
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies.
Tucker: We should be very concerned about this
"You can tell tucker has struck a nerve. There were about 8 articles published today slamming him for one reason or an other."


And not only lies about and by ukriane or russia but abut everything. I think the house of cards is falling down now.
from wars, to economics, to covid, to bioweapons, to wars, to coups, to social media manipulations, supply chains broken, inflation, extreme stock markets, with corruption everywhere, to climate change and rapidly increasing extreme weather events feedbacks all over .... and at the centre of it all cabals of extreme wealth and media propaganda and worse.

You’ve Been LIED To About Why Ukraine War Began,

https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

Lies on top of lies on top of other lies. creating crazy beliefs and reactions everywhere.
twitchell and eckankar lies on a global scale
Henosis Sage
2022-03-11 04:20:38 UTC
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Post by Henosis Sage
Post by Henosis Sage
Post by Henosis Sage
bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....
USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.
via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today
http://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc
in congress under oath ..... oops
"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.
there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???
Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.
"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.
"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.
"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.
Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
---
The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
---
Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals
sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888
AND
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.
"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.
=========================
the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE
it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.
who knows what else she knows but did not say?
and again fwiw
BEWARE WHAT YOU ARE BEING SOLD VIA THE MEDIA AND TALKING HEADS ...
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denied Ukrainian claims that Russian troops had shelled an operating maternity hospital in Ukraine. The building had been used as a base by the far-right Azov Battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the top Russian diplomat claimed on Thursday, during a press conference in Turkey.
The hospital in question has been for days under the control of a Ukrainian paramilitary group and Moscow presented evidence of this to the UN Security Council several days ago, Lavrov said.
“The Azov Battalion (A NEO-NAZI GROUP) and other radicals kicked out all the expectant mothers, the nurses and other staff members. It was the base of the Azov ultra-radicals,” he said, speaking after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba in Turkey’s Antalya.
Lavrov added that reports coming from Ukraine that contradict this were obviously meant to “manipulate global public opinion” about what is happening in the country, and he also chastised Western media for taking part in the propaganda effort.
“I have seen reports … that were really emotional. Unfortunately, the other side of the situation, which would allow one to form an objective opinion, was not given any prominence,” Lavrov said.
.................
JUST ANOTHER WILD ACCUSATION PROPAGANDA PIECE THAT'S BEEN DEBUNKED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE NO BODIES, NO NURSES, NO PATIENTS, NO NOTHING .......
THE BS IS BEING PUSHED ALL THE TIME ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND CHERNOBYL TOO.
ALL LIES ... WHICH END UP BEING IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE FALSE ONCE PUT INTO THE WILD ....
LIKE THE MYTH/PROPGANDA IRAQI SOLDIERS WERE THROWING NEW BORN KUWAITI BABIES ON THE FLOOR TO SEND THEIR HUMID-CRIBS BACK TO IRAQ IN 1990/91
THAT LIE WAS PROVIDED IN CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY......... BEWARE PEOPLES
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies.
Tucker: We should be very concerned about this
"You can tell tucker has struck a nerve. There were about 8 articles published today slamming him for one reason or an other."
http://youtu.be/g2cwGscanAg
And not only lies about and by ukriane or russia but abut everything. I think the house of cards is falling down now.
from wars, to economics, to covid, to bioweapons, to wars, to coups, to social media manipulations, supply chains broken, inflation, extreme stock markets, with corruption everywhere, to climate change and rapidly increasing extreme weather events feedbacks all over .... and at the centre of it all cabals of extreme wealth and media propaganda and worse.
You’ve Been LIED To About Why Ukraine War Began,
http://youtu.be/CxMVcrvtqqs
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies. creating crazy beliefs and reactions everywhere.
twitchell and eckankar lies on a global scale
(a post went missing .... I think the world is in a very bad place atm., very bad. )

anyway found this might help ....As today’s piece should remind us all, historian Alfred McCoy has long had a unique way of looking at the vast landmass of Eurasia and its role in imperial history. If you want to get the true background for his new essay (as well as for the nightmarish ongoing war in Ukraine) from the sixteenth century to the present, make sure to get your hands on his latest Dispatch book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change.

Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping in the Struggle over Eurasia
By Alfred McCoy

Just as the relentless grinding of the earth’s tectonic plates produces earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, so the endless superpower struggle for dominance over Eurasia is fraught with tensions and armed conflict. Beneath the visible outbreak of war in Ukraine and the U.S.-Chinese naval standoff in the South China Sea, there is now an underlying shift in geopolitical power in process across the vast Eurasian landmass — the epicenter of global power on a fast-changing, overheating planet. Take a moment to step back with me to try to understand what’s now happening on this increasingly embattled globe of ours.

If geology explains the earth’s eruptions, geopolitics is the tool we need to grasp the deeper meaning of the devastating war in Ukraine and the events that led to this crisis. As I explain in my recent book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change, geopolitics is essentially a method for the management of empire through the use of geography (air, land, and sea) to maximize military and economic advantage. Unlike conventional nations, whose peoples can be readily mobilized for self-defense, empires are, by dint of their extraterritorial reach and the perils inherent in any foreign military deployment, a surprisingly fragile form of government. To give an empire a fighting chance of survival against formidable odds requires a resilient geopolitical architecture.

https://tomdispatch.com/the-geopolitics-of-the-ukraine-war/
Henosis Sage
2022-03-11 09:32:08 UTC
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Post by Henosis Sage
Post by Henosis Sage
Post by Henosis Sage
bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....
USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.
via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today
http://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc
in congress under oath ..... oops
"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.
there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???
Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.
"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.
"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.
"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.
Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
---
The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
---
Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals
sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888
AND
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.
"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.
=========================
the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE
it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.
who knows what else she knows but did not say?
and again fwiw
BEWARE WHAT YOU ARE BEING SOLD VIA THE MEDIA AND TALKING HEADS ...
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denied Ukrainian claims that Russian troops had shelled an operating maternity hospital in Ukraine. The building had been used as a base by the far-right Azov Battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the top Russian diplomat claimed on Thursday, during a press conference in Turkey.
The hospital in question has been for days under the control of a Ukrainian paramilitary group and Moscow presented evidence of this to the UN Security Council several days ago, Lavrov said.
“The Azov Battalion (A NEO-NAZI GROUP) and other radicals kicked out all the expectant mothers, the nurses and other staff members. It was the base of the Azov ultra-radicals,” he said, speaking after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba in Turkey’s Antalya.
Lavrov added that reports coming from Ukraine that contradict this were obviously meant to “manipulate global public opinion” about what is happening in the country, and he also chastised Western media for taking part in the propaganda effort.
“I have seen reports … that were really emotional. Unfortunately, the other side of the situation, which would allow one to form an objective opinion, was not given any prominence,” Lavrov said.
.................
JUST ANOTHER WILD ACCUSATION PROPAGANDA PIECE THAT'S BEEN DEBUNKED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE NO BODIES, NO NURSES, NO PATIENTS, NO NOTHING .......
THE BS IS BEING PUSHED ALL THE TIME ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND CHERNOBYL TOO.
ALL LIES ... WHICH END UP BEING IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE FALSE ONCE PUT INTO THE WILD ....
LIKE THE MYTH/PROPGANDA IRAQI SOLDIERS WERE THROWING NEW BORN KUWAITI BABIES ON THE FLOOR TO SEND THEIR HUMID-CRIBS BACK TO IRAQ IN 1990/91
THAT LIE WAS PROVIDED IN CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY......... BEWARE PEOPLES
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies.
Tucker: We should be very concerned about this
"You can tell tucker has struck a nerve. There were about 8 articles published today slamming him for one reason or an other."
http://youtu.be/g2cwGscanAg
And not only lies about and by ukriane or russia but abut everything. I think the house of cards is falling down now.
from wars, to economics, to covid, to bioweapons, to wars, to coups, to social media manipulations, supply chains broken, inflation, extreme stock markets, with corruption everywhere, to climate change and rapidly increasing extreme weather events feedbacks all over .... and at the centre of it all cabals of extreme wealth and media propaganda and worse.
You’ve Been LIED To About Why Ukraine War Began,
http://youtu.be/CxMVcrvtqqs
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies. creating crazy beliefs and reactions everywhere.
twitchell and eckankar lies on a global scale
(a post went missing .... I think the world is in a very bad place atm., very bad. )
anyway found this might help ....As today’s piece should remind us all, historian Alfred McCoy has long had a unique way of looking at the vast landmass of Eurasia and its role in imperial history. If you want to get the true background for his new essay (as well as for the nightmarish ongoing war in Ukraine) from the sixteenth century to the present, make sure to get your hands on his latest Dispatch book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change.
Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping in the Struggle over Eurasia
By Alfred McCoy
Just as the relentless grinding of the earth’s tectonic plates produces earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, so the endless superpower struggle for dominance over Eurasia is fraught with tensions and armed conflict. Beneath the visible outbreak of war in Ukraine and the U.S.-Chinese naval standoff in the South China Sea, there is now an underlying shift in geopolitical power in process across the vast Eurasian landmass — the epicenter of global power on a fast-changing, overheating planet. Take a moment to step back with me to try to understand what’s now happening on this increasingly embattled globe of ours.
If geology explains the earth’s eruptions, geopolitics is the tool we need to grasp the deeper meaning of the devastating war in Ukraine and the events that led to this crisis. As I explain in my recent book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change, geopolitics is essentially a method for the management of empire through the use of geography (air, land, and sea) to maximize military and economic advantage. Unlike conventional nations, whose peoples can be readily mobilized for self-defense, empires are, by dint of their extraterritorial reach and the perils inherent in any foreign military deployment, a surprisingly fragile form of government. To give an empire a fighting chance of survival against formidable odds requires a resilient geopolitical architecture.
https://tomdispatch.com/the-geopolitics-of-the-ukraine-war/
there is so much that has been denied and ignored over the years ..... the current delusions over ukraine russia n armerica et al are the most extreme i have ever seen. thanks to lying intel services, politicians/officals and the media everywhere. it's quite disgusting what's been done .....

America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis
Neo-fascists play an important official or tolerated role in US-backed Ukraine.
By Stephen F. Cohen

May 2, 2018

Cohen begins: The orthodox American political-media narrative blames “Putin’s Russia” alone for the new US-Russian Cold War. Maintaining this (at most) partial truth involves various mainstream media malpractices, among them lack of historical context; reporting based on unverified “facts” and selective sources; editorial bias; and the excluding, even slurring, of proponents of alternative explanatory narratives as “Kremlin apologists” and carriers of “Russian propaganda.”
[...]

§ That the snipers who killed scores of protestors and policemen on Kiev’s Maidan Square in February 2014, thereby triggering a “democratic revolution” that overthrew the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, and brought to power a virulent anti-Russian, pro-American regime—it was neither democratic nor a revolution, but a violent coup unfolding in the streets with high-level support—were sent not by Yanukovych, as is still widely reported, but instead almost certainly by the neofascist organization Right Sector and its co-conspirators.

§ That the pogrom-like burning to death of ethnic Russians and others in Odessa shortly later in 2014 reawakened memories of Nazi extermination squads in Ukraine during World War II has been all but deleted from the American mainstream narrative even though it remains a painful and revelatory experience for many Ukrainians.

§ That the Azov Battalion of some 3,000 well-armed fighters, which has played a major combat role in the Ukrainian civil war and now is an official component of Kiev’s armed forces, is avowedly “partially” pro-Nazi, as evidenced by its regalia, slogans, and programmatic statements, and well-documented as such by several international monitoring organizations.
[...]
Nothing in Putin’s statements over 18 years in power are akin to fascism, whose core belief is a cult of blood based on the alleged superiority of one ethnicity over all others. As head of a vast multiethnic state, such statements by Putin would be inconceivable and political suicide. There are, of course, neofascist activists in Russia, but many of them have been imprisoned. Nor is a mass fascist movement feasible in Russia where so many millions died in the war against Nazi Germany, a war that directly affected Putin and clearly left a formative mark on him. Though born after the war, his mother and father barely survived near-fatal wounds and disease, his older brother died in the long German siege of Leningrad, and several uncles perished. Still more, there is no anti-Semitism evident in Putin. Indeed, it is widely said, both in Russia and in Israel, that life for Russian Jews is better under Putin than it has ever been in that country’s long history.

§ We are left, then, not with Putin’s responsibility for the resurgence of fascism in a major European country, but with America’s shame and possible indelible stain on its historical reputation for tolerating it even if only through silence.

[...]

§ Or that Israel’s official annual report on anti-Semitism around the world in 2017 concluded that such incidents had doubled in Ukraine and the number “surpassed the tally for all the incidents reported throughout the entire region combined.” By the region, the report meant the total in all of Eastern Europe and all former territories of the Soviet Union.
Americans cannot be faulted for not knowing these facts. They are very rarely reported and still less debated in the mainstream media, whether in newspapers or on television. To learn about them, Americans would have to turn to alternative media and to their independent writers, which rarely affect mainstream accounts of the new Cold War.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/

'neo-fascists' like i am thinking of marcos in the phillipines, pinochet in chile, several in central & south America, military juntas in argentina n greece and indonesia and elsewhere. ....... always backed in by AMERICA ..... now ukraine may not be as bad as some of those but that the facts n history are denied is the problem here. it is kinda sickening, there is so much deception and lying going on now. yes trump was full of shit a massive liar and yet even russiagate was a lie too. the whole pile of politics in the US is disgusting.
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2022-03-12 07:39:41 UTC
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bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....
USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.
via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today
http://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc
in congress under oath ..... oops
"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.
there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???
Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.
"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.
"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.
"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.
Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
---
The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
---
Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals
sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888
AND
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.
"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.
=========================
the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE
it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.
who knows what else she knows but did not say?
and again fwiw
BEWARE WHAT YOU ARE BEING SOLD VIA THE MEDIA AND TALKING HEADS ...
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denied Ukrainian claims that Russian troops had shelled an operating maternity hospital in Ukraine. The building had been used as a base by the far-right Azov Battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the top Russian diplomat claimed on Thursday, during a press conference in Turkey.
The hospital in question has been for days under the control of a Ukrainian paramilitary group and Moscow presented evidence of this to the UN Security Council several days ago, Lavrov said.
“The Azov Battalion (A NEO-NAZI GROUP) and other radicals kicked out all the expectant mothers, the nurses and other staff members. It was the base of the Azov ultra-radicals,” he said, speaking after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba in Turkey’s Antalya.
Lavrov added that reports coming from Ukraine that contradict this were obviously meant to “manipulate global public opinion” about what is happening in the country, and he also chastised Western media for taking part in the propaganda effort.
“I have seen reports … that were really emotional. Unfortunately, the other side of the situation, which would allow one to form an objective opinion, was not given any prominence,” Lavrov said.
.................
JUST ANOTHER WILD ACCUSATION PROPAGANDA PIECE THAT'S BEEN DEBUNKED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE NO BODIES, NO NURSES, NO PATIENTS, NO NOTHING .......
THE BS IS BEING PUSHED ALL THE TIME ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND CHERNOBYL TOO.
ALL LIES ... WHICH END UP BEING IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE FALSE ONCE PUT INTO THE WILD ....
LIKE THE MYTH/PROPGANDA IRAQI SOLDIERS WERE THROWING NEW BORN KUWAITI BABIES ON THE FLOOR TO SEND THEIR HUMID-CRIBS BACK TO IRAQ IN 1990/91
THAT LIE WAS PROVIDED IN CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY......... BEWARE PEOPLES
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies.
Tucker: We should be very concerned about this
"You can tell tucker has struck a nerve. There were about 8 articles published today slamming him for one reason or an other."
http://youtu.be/g2cwGscanAg
And not only lies about and by ukriane or russia but abut everything. I think the house of cards is falling down now.
from wars, to economics, to covid, to bioweapons, to wars, to coups, to social media manipulations, supply chains broken, inflation, extreme stock markets, with corruption everywhere, to climate change and rapidly increasing extreme weather events feedbacks all over .... and at the centre of it all cabals of extreme wealth and media propaganda and worse.
You’ve Been LIED To About Why Ukraine War Began,
http://youtu.be/CxMVcrvtqqs
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies. creating crazy beliefs and reactions everywhere.
twitchell and eckankar lies on a global scale
(a post went missing .... I think the world is in a very bad place atm., very bad. )
anyway found this might help ....As today’s piece should remind us all, historian Alfred McCoy has long had a unique way of looking at the vast landmass of Eurasia and its role in imperial history. If you want to get the true background for his new essay (as well as for the nightmarish ongoing war in Ukraine) from the sixteenth century to the present, make sure to get your hands on his latest Dispatch book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change.
Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping in the Struggle over Eurasia
By Alfred McCoy
Just as the relentless grinding of the earth’s tectonic plates produces earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, so the endless superpower struggle for dominance over Eurasia is fraught with tensions and armed conflict. Beneath the visible outbreak of war in Ukraine and the U.S.-Chinese naval standoff in the South China Sea, there is now an underlying shift in geopolitical power in process across the vast Eurasian landmass — the epicenter of global power on a fast-changing, overheating planet. Take a moment to step back with me to try to understand what’s now happening on this increasingly embattled globe of ours.
If geology explains the earth’s eruptions, geopolitics is the tool we need to grasp the deeper meaning of the devastating war in Ukraine and the events that led to this crisis. As I explain in my recent book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change, geopolitics is essentially a method for the management of empire through the use of geography (air, land, and sea) to maximize military and economic advantage. Unlike conventional nations, whose peoples can be readily mobilized for self-defense, empires are, by dint of their extraterritorial reach and the perils inherent in any foreign military deployment, a surprisingly fragile form of government. To give an empire a fighting chance of survival against formidable odds requires a resilient geopolitical architecture.
https://tomdispatch.com/the-geopolitics-of-the-ukraine-war/
there is so much that has been denied and ignored over the years ..... the current delusions over ukraine russia n armerica et al are the most extreme i have ever seen. thanks to lying intel services, politicians/officals and the media everywhere. it's quite disgusting what's been done .....
America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis
Neo-fascists play an important official or tolerated role in US-backed Ukraine.
By Stephen F. Cohen
May 2, 2018
Cohen begins: The orthodox American political-media narrative blames “Putin’s Russia” alone for the new US-Russian Cold War. Maintaining this (at most) partial truth involves various mainstream media malpractices, among them lack of historical context; reporting based on unverified “facts” and selective sources; editorial bias; and the excluding, even slurring, of proponents of alternative explanatory narratives as “Kremlin apologists” and carriers of “Russian propaganda.”
[...]
§ That the snipers who killed scores of protestors and policemen on Kiev’s Maidan Square in February 2014, thereby triggering a “democratic revolution” that overthrew the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, and brought to power a virulent anti-Russian, pro-American regime—it was neither democratic nor a revolution, but a violent coup unfolding in the streets with high-level support—were sent not by Yanukovych, as is still widely reported, but instead almost certainly by the neofascist organization Right Sector and its co-conspirators.
§ That the pogrom-like burning to death of ethnic Russians and others in Odessa shortly later in 2014 reawakened memories of Nazi extermination squads in Ukraine during World War II has been all but deleted from the American mainstream narrative even though it remains a painful and revelatory experience for many Ukrainians.
§ That the Azov Battalion of some 3,000 well-armed fighters, which has played a major combat role in the Ukrainian civil war and now is an official component of Kiev’s armed forces, is avowedly “partially” pro-Nazi, as evidenced by its regalia, slogans, and programmatic statements, and well-documented as such by several international monitoring organizations.
[...]
Nothing in Putin’s statements over 18 years in power are akin to fascism, whose core belief is a cult of blood based on the alleged superiority of one ethnicity over all others. As head of a vast multiethnic state, such statements by Putin would be inconceivable and political suicide. There are, of course, neofascist activists in Russia, but many of them have been imprisoned. Nor is a mass fascist movement feasible in Russia where so many millions died in the war against Nazi Germany, a war that directly affected Putin and clearly left a formative mark on him. Though born after the war, his mother and father barely survived near-fatal wounds and disease, his older brother died in the long German siege of Leningrad, and several uncles perished. Still more, there is no anti-Semitism evident in Putin. Indeed, it is widely said, both in Russia and in Israel, that life for Russian Jews is better under Putin than it has ever been in that country’s long history.
§ We are left, then, not with Putin’s responsibility for the resurgence of fascism in a major European country, but with America’s shame and possible indelible stain on its historical reputation for tolerating it even if only through silence.
[...]
§ Or that Israel’s official annual report on anti-Semitism around the world in 2017 concluded that such incidents had doubled in Ukraine and the number “surpassed the tally for all the incidents reported throughout the entire region combined.” By the region, the report meant the total in all of Eastern Europe and all former territories of the Soviet Union.
Americans cannot be faulted for not knowing these facts. They are very rarely reported and still less debated in the mainstream media, whether in newspapers or on television. To learn about them, Americans would have to turn to alternative media and to their independent writers, which rarely affect mainstream accounts of the new Cold War.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/
'neo-fascists' like i am thinking of marcos in the phillipines, pinochet in chile, several in central & south America, military juntas in argentina n greece and indonesia and elsewhere. ....... always backed in by AMERICA ..... now ukraine may not be as bad as some of those but that the facts n history are denied is the problem here. it is kinda sickening, there is so much deception and lying going on now. yes trump was full of shit a massive liar and yet even russiagate was a lie too. the whole pile of politics in the US is disgusting.
here another pov that mirrors my own thoughts .....

Stop This Imperialist Russian War
March 10, 2022
Stop This Imperialist Russian War
We must press the war masters on both/all sides of the Ukrainian conflict to negotiate for peace since there’s no social justice, no democracy, and no livable ecology for the common good on a war-levelled planet any more than on a climate-baked Earth.

extracts ...

“The Last Thing the U.S. Wants is for Peace to Break Out”: Hence “the New Winston Churchill”

On the morning of Monday, March 7, Reuters reported the Kremlin’s offer to immediately cease hostilities – to end its military actions “in a moment” – if Ukraine and the West do four things: cease military action as part of a wider ceasefire; change Ukraine’s constitution to enshrine neutrality, meaning pledge to stay out of NATO; acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory; recognize the separatist republics of Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states. In other words, the Minsk Accords.

The offer received little if any attention in the big three cable news networks (CNN, MSNBC, and FOX) entrusted with manufacturing mass consent to US and Western imperialism. As my correspondent Frank Hughes explains:

“Basically the Minsk Accords which Russia has agreed to in principle all along and the us has consistently scuttled. As [Russian foreign minister Sergi] Lavrov has stated on multiple occasions, ‘they refuse to negotiate.’ The last thing the US wants at this point is for peace to break out. From the US perspective the more dead Ukrainians, he better. Ukies need to wake up. There’s no doubt about who will ‘win’ this and Russia’s offer is not going to get any better.”

As another correspondent, Terry Thomas reflected on Tuesday morning:

“I have checked all over the internet and see no reference this peace offer anywhere. Everything is ‘Biden to prohibit Russian energy imports.’ Also, and this is rich, apparently kissing Maduro’s ass to try to get oil from Venezuela. Just saw an article referring to Zelensky as a new Winston Churchill. And my guess is Biden wants to humiliate and completely defeat Putin, probably wants him gone. Then he can announce to the world that freedom has prevailed and get a big boost in his flagging approval ratings. The idea of rational conclusion to this bloody chapter may have gone away when Russian troops crossed the border, which would help explain [Washington’s] apparent refusal to really negotiate with Putin prior to invasion. Perhaps they were not completely displeased when the shooting started.”

Negotiate

It’s a shame, likely to kill a large number of soldiers and noncombatants. Instead of dismissing and burying Putin’s peace offer, the West should, well, negotiate to save lives and to pre-empt the slide to great nuclear power conflict. As the bloody battle for Kyiv beckons, what in the name of God would be so horrible about (a) pledging Ukrainian neutrality (maybe this could be negotiated down from a constitutional change), (b) officially accepting the fait accompli of Crimea’s incorporation into Russia, and (c) recognizing independence (or perhaps negotiating increased autonomy) in the two Russian-speaking breakaway provinces? How many more Russian and ordinary troops and how many Ukrainian civilians needs to die so that some version of the Minsk Accords can’t be implemented? Is the prevention of official Ukrainian neutrality and demilitarization really worth tens if not hundreds of thousands of deaths and potential escalation to nuclear winter? Seriously?

The alternatives are not pretty and the likelihood of decent outcomes with accepting some version of the terms offered are not high. “Putin won’t back down without some sort of win… If things carry on as they are,” professor Hill writes. Further:

“the result will eventually be diplomatic discussions about just the sort of terms Putin has put forward — but after countless additional deaths and unimaginable suffering in Ukraine. The likelihood of Ukraine fighting Russia to the point at which Putin is willing to drop any demands is still extremely low, no matter how many weapons the West provides Ukraine. There’s a chance Putin will be overthrown, but at this moment in time that too is unlikely. Putin has more support in Russia than many western commentators seem willing to admit, and currently has a firm hold of the reins of power…A long, drawn-out war and the impact of sanctions will drain Russian support for Putin’s war, but we shouldn’t underestimate the strength of Putin’s resolve or patriotic elements within Russia.”

Wise words.

https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/10/stop-this-imperialist-russian-war/

what is happening there and global cheer squads is insanity writ large.
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bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....
USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.
via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today
http://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc
in congress under oath ..... oops
"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.
there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???
Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.
"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.
"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.
"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.
Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
---
The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
---
Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals
sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888
AND
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.
"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.
=========================
the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE
it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.
who knows what else she knows but did not say?
and again fwiw
BEWARE WHAT YOU ARE BEING SOLD VIA THE MEDIA AND TALKING HEADS ...
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denied Ukrainian claims that Russian troops had shelled an operating maternity hospital in Ukraine. The building had been used as a base by the far-right Azov Battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the top Russian diplomat claimed on Thursday, during a press conference in Turkey.
The hospital in question has been for days under the control of a Ukrainian paramilitary group and Moscow presented evidence of this to the UN Security Council several days ago, Lavrov said.
“The Azov Battalion (A NEO-NAZI GROUP) and other radicals kicked out all the expectant mothers, the nurses and other staff members. It was the base of the Azov ultra-radicals,” he said, speaking after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba in Turkey’s Antalya.
Lavrov added that reports coming from Ukraine that contradict this were obviously meant to “manipulate global public opinion” about what is happening in the country, and he also chastised Western media for taking part in the propaganda effort.
“I have seen reports … that were really emotional. Unfortunately, the other side of the situation, which would allow one to form an objective opinion, was not given any prominence,” Lavrov said.
.................
JUST ANOTHER WILD ACCUSATION PROPAGANDA PIECE THAT'S BEEN DEBUNKED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE NO BODIES, NO NURSES, NO PATIENTS, NO NOTHING .......
THE BS IS BEING PUSHED ALL THE TIME ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND CHERNOBYL TOO.
ALL LIES ... WHICH END UP BEING IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE FALSE ONCE PUT INTO THE WILD ....
LIKE THE MYTH/PROPGANDA IRAQI SOLDIERS WERE THROWING NEW BORN KUWAITI BABIES ON THE FLOOR TO SEND THEIR HUMID-CRIBS BACK TO IRAQ IN 1990/91
THAT LIE WAS PROVIDED IN CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY......... BEWARE PEOPLES
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies.
Tucker: We should be very concerned about this
"You can tell tucker has struck a nerve. There were about 8 articles published today slamming him for one reason or an other."
http://youtu.be/g2cwGscanAg
And not only lies about and by ukriane or russia but abut everything. I think the house of cards is falling down now.
from wars, to economics, to covid, to bioweapons, to wars, to coups, to social media manipulations, supply chains broken, inflation, extreme stock markets, with corruption everywhere, to climate change and rapidly increasing extreme weather events feedbacks all over .... and at the centre of it all cabals of extreme wealth and media propaganda and worse.
You’ve Been LIED To About Why Ukraine War Began,
http://youtu.be/CxMVcrvtqqs
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies. creating crazy beliefs and reactions everywhere.
twitchell and eckankar lies on a global scale
(a post went missing .... I think the world is in a very bad place atm., very bad. )
anyway found this might help ....As today’s piece should remind us all, historian Alfred McCoy has long had a unique way of looking at the vast landmass of Eurasia and its role in imperial history. If you want to get the true background for his new essay (as well as for the nightmarish ongoing war in Ukraine) from the sixteenth century to the present, make sure to get your hands on his latest Dispatch book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change.
Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping in the Struggle over Eurasia
By Alfred McCoy
Just as the relentless grinding of the earth’s tectonic plates produces earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, so the endless superpower struggle for dominance over Eurasia is fraught with tensions and armed conflict. Beneath the visible outbreak of war in Ukraine and the U.S.-Chinese naval standoff in the South China Sea, there is now an underlying shift in geopolitical power in process across the vast Eurasian landmass — the epicenter of global power on a fast-changing, overheating planet. Take a moment to step back with me to try to understand what’s now happening on this increasingly embattled globe of ours.
If geology explains the earth’s eruptions, geopolitics is the tool we need to grasp the deeper meaning of the devastating war in Ukraine and the events that led to this crisis. As I explain in my recent book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change, geopolitics is essentially a method for the management of empire through the use of geography (air, land, and sea) to maximize military and economic advantage. Unlike conventional nations, whose peoples can be readily mobilized for self-defense, empires are, by dint of their extraterritorial reach and the perils inherent in any foreign military deployment, a surprisingly fragile form of government. To give an empire a fighting chance of survival against formidable odds requires a resilient geopolitical architecture.
https://tomdispatch.com/the-geopolitics-of-the-ukraine-war/
there is so much that has been denied and ignored over the years ..... the current delusions over ukraine russia n armerica et al are the most extreme i have ever seen. thanks to lying intel services, politicians/officals and the media everywhere. it's quite disgusting what's been done .....
America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis
Neo-fascists play an important official or tolerated role in US-backed Ukraine.
By Stephen F. Cohen
May 2, 2018
Cohen begins: The orthodox American political-media narrative blames “Putin’s Russia” alone for the new US-Russian Cold War. Maintaining this (at most) partial truth involves various mainstream media malpractices, among them lack of historical context; reporting based on unverified “facts” and selective sources; editorial bias; and the excluding, even slurring, of proponents of alternative explanatory narratives as “Kremlin apologists” and carriers of “Russian propaganda.”
[...]
§ That the snipers who killed scores of protestors and policemen on Kiev’s Maidan Square in February 2014, thereby triggering a “democratic revolution” that overthrew the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, and brought to power a virulent anti-Russian, pro-American regime—it was neither democratic nor a revolution, but a violent coup unfolding in the streets with high-level support—were sent not by Yanukovych, as is still widely reported, but instead almost certainly by the neofascist organization Right Sector and its co-conspirators.
§ That the pogrom-like burning to death of ethnic Russians and others in Odessa shortly later in 2014 reawakened memories of Nazi extermination squads in Ukraine during World War II has been all but deleted from the American mainstream narrative even though it remains a painful and revelatory experience for many Ukrainians.
§ That the Azov Battalion of some 3,000 well-armed fighters, which has played a major combat role in the Ukrainian civil war and now is an official component of Kiev’s armed forces, is avowedly “partially” pro-Nazi, as evidenced by its regalia, slogans, and programmatic statements, and well-documented as such by several international monitoring organizations.
[...]
Nothing in Putin’s statements over 18 years in power are akin to fascism, whose core belief is a cult of blood based on the alleged superiority of one ethnicity over all others. As head of a vast multiethnic state, such statements by Putin would be inconceivable and political suicide. There are, of course, neofascist activists in Russia, but many of them have been imprisoned. Nor is a mass fascist movement feasible in Russia where so many millions died in the war against Nazi Germany, a war that directly affected Putin and clearly left a formative mark on him. Though born after the war, his mother and father barely survived near-fatal wounds and disease, his older brother died in the long German siege of Leningrad, and several uncles perished. Still more, there is no anti-Semitism evident in Putin. Indeed, it is widely said, both in Russia and in Israel, that life for Russian Jews is better under Putin than it has ever been in that country’s long history.
§ We are left, then, not with Putin’s responsibility for the resurgence of fascism in a major European country, but with America’s shame and possible indelible stain on its historical reputation for tolerating it even if only through silence.
[...]
§ Or that Israel’s official annual report on anti-Semitism around the world in 2017 concluded that such incidents had doubled in Ukraine and the number “surpassed the tally for all the incidents reported throughout the entire region combined.” By the region, the report meant the total in all of Eastern Europe and all former territories of the Soviet Union.
Americans cannot be faulted for not knowing these facts. They are very rarely reported and still less debated in the mainstream media, whether in newspapers or on television. To learn about them, Americans would have to turn to alternative media and to their independent writers, which rarely affect mainstream accounts of the new Cold War.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/
'neo-fascists' like i am thinking of marcos in the phillipines, pinochet in chile, several in central & south America, military juntas in argentina n greece and indonesia and elsewhere. ....... always backed in by AMERICA ..... now ukraine may not be as bad as some of those but that the facts n history are denied is the problem here. it is kinda sickening, there is so much deception and lying going on now. yes trump was full of shit a massive liar and yet even russiagate was a lie too. the whole pile of politics in the US is disgusting.
here another pov that mirrors my own thoughts .....
Stop This Imperialist Russian War
March 10, 2022
Stop This Imperialist Russian War
We must press the war masters on both/all sides of the Ukrainian conflict to negotiate for peace since there’s no social justice, no democracy, and no livable ecology for the common good on a war-levelled planet any more than on a climate-baked Earth.
extracts ...
“The Last Thing the U.S. Wants is for Peace to Break Out”: Hence “the New Winston Churchill”
On the morning of Monday, March 7, Reuters reported the Kremlin’s offer to immediately cease hostilities – to end its military actions “in a moment” – if Ukraine and the West do four things: cease military action as part of a wider ceasefire; change Ukraine’s constitution to enshrine neutrality, meaning pledge to stay out of NATO; acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory; recognize the separatist republics of Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states. In other words, the Minsk Accords.
“Basically the Minsk Accords which Russia has agreed to in principle all along and the us has consistently scuttled. As [Russian foreign minister Sergi] Lavrov has stated on multiple occasions, ‘they refuse to negotiate.’ The last thing the US wants at this point is for peace to break out. From the US perspective the more dead Ukrainians, he better. Ukies need to wake up. There’s no doubt about who will ‘win’ this and Russia’s offer is not going to get any better.”
“I have checked all over the internet and see no reference this peace offer anywhere. Everything is ‘Biden to prohibit Russian energy imports.’ Also, and this is rich, apparently kissing Maduro’s ass to try to get oil from Venezuela. Just saw an article referring to Zelensky as a new Winston Churchill. And my guess is Biden wants to humiliate and completely defeat Putin, probably wants him gone. Then he can announce to the world that freedom has prevailed and get a big boost in his flagging approval ratings. The idea of rational conclusion to this bloody chapter may have gone away when Russian troops crossed the border, which would help explain [Washington’s] apparent refusal to really negotiate with Putin prior to invasion. Perhaps they were not completely displeased when the shooting started.”
Negotiate
It’s a shame, likely to kill a large number of soldiers and noncombatants. Instead of dismissing and burying Putin’s peace offer, the West should, well, negotiate to save lives and to pre-empt the slide to great nuclear power conflict. As the bloody battle for Kyiv beckons, what in the name of God would be so horrible about (a) pledging Ukrainian neutrality (maybe this could be negotiated down from a constitutional change), (b) officially accepting the fait accompli of Crimea’s incorporation into Russia, and (c) recognizing independence (or perhaps negotiating increased autonomy) in the two Russian-speaking breakaway provinces? How many more Russian and ordinary troops and how many Ukrainian civilians needs to die so that some version of the Minsk Accords can’t be implemented? Is the prevention of official Ukrainian neutrality and demilitarization really worth tens if not hundreds of thousands of deaths and potential escalation to nuclear winter? Seriously?
“the result will eventually be diplomatic discussions about just the sort of terms Putin has put forward — but after countless additional deaths and unimaginable suffering in Ukraine. The likelihood of Ukraine fighting Russia to the point at which Putin is willing to drop any demands is still extremely low, no matter how many weapons the West provides Ukraine. There’s a chance Putin will be overthrown, but at this moment in time that too is unlikely. Putin has more support in Russia than many western commentators seem willing to admit, and currently has a firm hold of the reins of power…A long, drawn-out war and the impact of sanctions will drain Russian support for Putin’s war, but we shouldn’t underestimate the strength of Putin’s resolve or patriotic elements within Russia.”
Wise words.
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/10/stop-this-imperialist-russian-war/
what is happening there and global cheer squads is insanity writ large.
i think this paert nails the disgusting aspect i find the most vile too ...

Wow: “we’ll be right back with more images of dead families, live coverage of nuclear power plants under artillery attack and reflections on potential nuclear after a few infantilizing messages from our parasitic corporate sponsors.” Thomas again:

“Been watching these scenes of pain, misery, and cruelty for more than a week now, and I have hit a point where the commercials have become something different than they were before. Previously, before this all started, I sort of saw them as part of the creepy absurdity of late consumer capitalism and a bizarre manifestation of the obvious power behind the information I was being fed. I would turn the volume off when they came on. But it was just sort of the pathetic way our pathetic society did its pathetic thing. But now they seem like something way worse, way darker: something truly odious, disgusting, and quite frankly evil. These talking heads can go through scene after scene of absolute human depravity and then inform us they’ll be back after “this brief message” to show us some more depravity. They don’t blink an eye or even show embarrassment at what they are doing. It all just speaks volumes. How anyone could watch the juxtaposition of the two and find it anything but filthy and existentially hollow is beyond me. Real horror brought to you by evil absurdity… It’s not like this horrible stuff doesn’t happen on a regular basis, and of course a good deal of it the result of the degenerate late capitalism complex that also pukes up the Liberty Mutual commercials. But it is the way cable news is covering this particular horror story, and then they have the audacity to simply do the other shit without as much as a comment or an apology. It is really beyond description. And apparently Anderson Cooper and Erin Burnett and Lawrence O’Donnell don’t seem to notice or care at all, which makes it just surreal.”

These are things that the Frankfurt School, Aldous Huxley, Ray Bradbury, and Neal Postman, among others, have tried to warn us about. Like also-capitalist US foreign policy, it’s shameless, soulless, crass, cynical, cold, calculating. “The bourgeoisie,” two young and peripatetic German philosophers-turned-communists wrote in 1838, “has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation… All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned….” Capitalism is imperialist and it is also socio-pathological like the modern corporation and the military industrial complexes it has hatched.

No War but the People’s War

“Fight the Rich, Not Their Wars.”

“No to Putin, No to NATO: Stand with the People.”

“No War but the People’s War.”

“The Working People Have No Country.”

These slogans no doubt strike many liberals, and many “left” campists as empty platitudes. I disagree. We must press the war masters on both/all sides to negotiate for peace since there’s no social justice, no democracy, and no livable ecology for the common good on a war-levelled planet any more than on a climate-baked Earth. But we must also wage a people’s war on class rule and oligarchs of all national stripes for it is the chaotic and soulless capitalist order that most fundamentally gives rise to modern imperial war (and eco-cide) in the first place.
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/10/stop-this-imperialist-russian-war/
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bat cornoa virus and anthrax and more ... it is alledged ....
USA defense dept has been, still is, operating "Biological research facilities" in Ukrainian, has been for years.
via tucker carlson fox news and nuland in congress today
http://youtu.be/AugzqXPYaOc
in congress under oath ..... oops
"So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach," Nuland said.
there's other reports it is real VIA RUSSIA MOD , not only via Nuland.
alleging orders in ukraine to destroy documents/materials ? etc
COULD BE HYPERBOLE ..... who knows???
Moscow believes that Washington needs to inform the international community about the military biological programs that were implemented in Ukraine, Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said at a briefing on Wednesday.
"We confirm that the facts that came to the light during Russia’s special military operation in Ukraine point to the Kiev regime’s attempts to urgently cover up the traces of military biological programs," she noted. "It was not about peaceful scientific research because these programs were financed by the US Department of Defense," she added.
"We believe that the US Department of Defense and the US presidential administration need to inform the international community - doing it officially rather than through their ‘talking heads’ - about the programs that were implemented in Ukraine," Zakharova emphasized.
"Your research, your biological materials, particularly used for military purposes, turned up in Ukraine in the first place. What were you doing there? It is another continent, you don’t share a common border and there are no bases of yours," she noted. The Russian diplomat stressed that the world needed to know what the US intended to do there, what was the goal and how much investment had been made into Ukraine’s biological activities.
Zakharova went on to say that employees of the Ukrainian biological laboratories had provided documents about the emergency destruction of highly dangerous pathogens, including those of plague, anthrax and cholera, which had taken place on February 24. "It can be concluded that components of biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian biolabs located in close vicinity of our border. The emergency destruction of dangerous pathogens on February 24 was a necessary step aimed at concealing the fact that Ukraine and the US had violated Article 1 of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention," the Russian diplomat explained, adding: "The question is: how was it all destroyed? And was it completely destroyed?"
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The American authorities previously admitted that Ukraine hosts "biological research facilities", expressing concerns they could come under the control of Russian forces.
The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
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Kiev Regime Sought to Scrub Evidence of Pentagon-backed Biowarfare Programme, Russian MoD Reveals
sample of alledged documents
https://t.me/s/sputniknewsus/8888
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The Russian Defence Ministry on Thursday announced that the US-funded biological labs located in Ukraine were conducting experiments with bat coronavirus samples.
"According to the documents, the American side planned to conduct work on pathogens of birds, bats, and reptiles in Ukraine in 2022, with a further transition to studying the possibility of carrying African swine fever and anthrax", chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defence Major General Igor Konashenkov said.
In addition, the facilities were studying the possible spread of pathogens via wild birds, migrating between Russia, Ukraine, and other countries in the region.
"The purpose of this - and other Pentagon-funded biological research in Ukraine, was to create a mechanism for the covert spread of deadly pathogens", he added.
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the above are news reports are from media sources now banned in the USA and EUROPE
it might be propaganda .... i do not know .... but what nuland said, she said.
who knows what else she knows but did not say?
and again fwiw
BEWARE WHAT YOU ARE BEING SOLD VIA THE MEDIA AND TALKING HEADS ...
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov denied Ukrainian claims that Russian troops had shelled an operating maternity hospital in Ukraine. The building had been used as a base by the far-right Azov Battalion of the Ukrainian National Guard, the top Russian diplomat claimed on Thursday, during a press conference in Turkey.
The hospital in question has been for days under the control of a Ukrainian paramilitary group and Moscow presented evidence of this to the UN Security Council several days ago, Lavrov said.
“The Azov Battalion (A NEO-NAZI GROUP) and other radicals kicked out all the expectant mothers, the nurses and other staff members. It was the base of the Azov ultra-radicals,” he said, speaking after meeting his Ukrainian counterpart Dmytro Kuleba in Turkey’s Antalya.
Lavrov added that reports coming from Ukraine that contradict this were obviously meant to “manipulate global public opinion” about what is happening in the country, and he also chastised Western media for taking part in the propaganda effort.
“I have seen reports … that were really emotional. Unfortunately, the other side of the situation, which would allow one to form an objective opinion, was not given any prominence,” Lavrov said.
.................
JUST ANOTHER WILD ACCUSATION PROPAGANDA PIECE THAT'S BEEN DEBUNKED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE NO BODIES, NO NURSES, NO PATIENTS, NO NOTHING .......
THE BS IS BEING PUSHED ALL THE TIME ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND CHERNOBYL TOO.
ALL LIES ... WHICH END UP BEING IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE FALSE ONCE PUT INTO THE WILD ....
LIKE THE MYTH/PROPGANDA IRAQI SOLDIERS WERE THROWING NEW BORN KUWAITI BABIES ON THE FLOOR TO SEND THEIR HUMID-CRIBS BACK TO IRAQ IN 1990/91
THAT LIE WAS PROVIDED IN CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY......... BEWARE PEOPLES
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies.
Tucker: We should be very concerned about this
"You can tell tucker has struck a nerve. There were about 8 articles published today slamming him for one reason or an other."
http://youtu.be/g2cwGscanAg
And not only lies about and by ukriane or russia but abut everything. I think the house of cards is falling down now.
from wars, to economics, to covid, to bioweapons, to wars, to coups, to social media manipulations, supply chains broken, inflation, extreme stock markets, with corruption everywhere, to climate change and rapidly increasing extreme weather events feedbacks all over .... and at the centre of it all cabals of extreme wealth and media propaganda and worse.
You’ve Been LIED To About Why Ukraine War Began,
http://youtu.be/CxMVcrvtqqs
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
Lies on top of lies on top of other lies. creating crazy beliefs and reactions everywhere.
twitchell and eckankar lies on a global scale
(a post went missing .... I think the world is in a very bad place atm., very bad. )
anyway found this might help ....As today’s piece should remind us all, historian Alfred McCoy has long had a unique way of looking at the vast landmass of Eurasia and its role in imperial history. If you want to get the true background for his new essay (as well as for the nightmarish ongoing war in Ukraine) from the sixteenth century to the present, make sure to get your hands on his latest Dispatch book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change.
Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping in the Struggle over Eurasia
By Alfred McCoy
Just as the relentless grinding of the earth’s tectonic plates produces earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, so the endless superpower struggle for dominance over Eurasia is fraught with tensions and armed conflict. Beneath the visible outbreak of war in Ukraine and the U.S.-Chinese naval standoff in the South China Sea, there is now an underlying shift in geopolitical power in process across the vast Eurasian landmass — the epicenter of global power on a fast-changing, overheating planet. Take a moment to step back with me to try to understand what’s now happening on this increasingly embattled globe of ours.
If geology explains the earth’s eruptions, geopolitics is the tool we need to grasp the deeper meaning of the devastating war in Ukraine and the events that led to this crisis. As I explain in my recent book, To Govern the Globe: World Orders and Catastrophic Change, geopolitics is essentially a method for the management of empire through the use of geography (air, land, and sea) to maximize military and economic advantage. Unlike conventional nations, whose peoples can be readily mobilized for self-defense, empires are, by dint of their extraterritorial reach and the perils inherent in any foreign military deployment, a surprisingly fragile form of government. To give an empire a fighting chance of survival against formidable odds requires a resilient geopolitical architecture.
https://tomdispatch.com/the-geopolitics-of-the-ukraine-war/
there is so much that has been denied and ignored over the years ..... the current delusions over ukraine russia n armerica et al are the most extreme i have ever seen. thanks to lying intel services, politicians/officals and the media everywhere. it's quite disgusting what's been done .....
America’s Collusion With Neo-Nazis
Neo-fascists play an important official or tolerated role in US-backed Ukraine.
By Stephen F. Cohen
May 2, 2018
Cohen begins: The orthodox American political-media narrative blames “Putin’s Russia” alone for the new US-Russian Cold War. Maintaining this (at most) partial truth involves various mainstream media malpractices, among them lack of historical context; reporting based on unverified “facts” and selective sources; editorial bias; and the excluding, even slurring, of proponents of alternative explanatory narratives as “Kremlin apologists” and carriers of “Russian propaganda.”
[...]
§ That the snipers who killed scores of protestors and policemen on Kiev’s Maidan Square in February 2014, thereby triggering a “democratic revolution” that overthrew the elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, and brought to power a virulent anti-Russian, pro-American regime—it was neither democratic nor a revolution, but a violent coup unfolding in the streets with high-level support—were sent not by Yanukovych, as is still widely reported, but instead almost certainly by the neofascist organization Right Sector and its co-conspirators.
§ That the pogrom-like burning to death of ethnic Russians and others in Odessa shortly later in 2014 reawakened memories of Nazi extermination squads in Ukraine during World War II has been all but deleted from the American mainstream narrative even though it remains a painful and revelatory experience for many Ukrainians.
§ That the Azov Battalion of some 3,000 well-armed fighters, which has played a major combat role in the Ukrainian civil war and now is an official component of Kiev’s armed forces, is avowedly “partially” pro-Nazi, as evidenced by its regalia, slogans, and programmatic statements, and well-documented as such by several international monitoring organizations.
[...]
Nothing in Putin’s statements over 18 years in power are akin to fascism, whose core belief is a cult of blood based on the alleged superiority of one ethnicity over all others. As head of a vast multiethnic state, such statements by Putin would be inconceivable and political suicide. There are, of course, neofascist activists in Russia, but many of them have been imprisoned. Nor is a mass fascist movement feasible in Russia where so many millions died in the war against Nazi Germany, a war that directly affected Putin and clearly left a formative mark on him. Though born after the war, his mother and father barely survived near-fatal wounds and disease, his older brother died in the long German siege of Leningrad, and several uncles perished. Still more, there is no anti-Semitism evident in Putin. Indeed, it is widely said, both in Russia and in Israel, that life for Russian Jews is better under Putin than it has ever been in that country’s long history.
§ We are left, then, not with Putin’s responsibility for the resurgence of fascism in a major European country, but with America’s shame and possible indelible stain on its historical reputation for tolerating it even if only through silence.
[...]
§ Or that Israel’s official annual report on anti-Semitism around the world in 2017 concluded that such incidents had doubled in Ukraine and the number “surpassed the tally for all the incidents reported throughout the entire region combined.” By the region, the report meant the total in all of Eastern Europe and all former territories of the Soviet Union.
Americans cannot be faulted for not knowing these facts. They are very rarely reported and still less debated in the mainstream media, whether in newspapers or on television. To learn about them, Americans would have to turn to alternative media and to their independent writers, which rarely affect mainstream accounts of the new Cold War.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/americas-collusion-with-neo-nazis/
'neo-fascists' like i am thinking of marcos in the phillipines, pinochet in chile, several in central & south America, military juntas in argentina n greece and indonesia and elsewhere. ....... always backed in by AMERICA ..... now ukraine may not be as bad as some of those but that the facts n history are denied is the problem here. it is kinda sickening, there is so much deception and lying going on now. yes trump was full of shit a massive liar and yet even russiagate was a lie too. the whole pile of politics in the US is disgusting.
here another pov that mirrors my own thoughts .....
Stop This Imperialist Russian War
March 10, 2022
Stop This Imperialist Russian War
We must press the war masters on both/all sides of the Ukrainian conflict to negotiate for peace since there’s no social justice, no democracy, and no livable ecology for the common good on a war-levelled planet any more than on a climate-baked Earth.
extracts ...
“The Last Thing the U.S. Wants is for Peace to Break Out”: Hence “the New Winston Churchill”
On the morning of Monday, March 7, Reuters reported the Kremlin’s offer to immediately cease hostilities – to end its military actions “in a moment” – if Ukraine and the West do four things: cease military action as part of a wider ceasefire; change Ukraine’s constitution to enshrine neutrality, meaning pledge to stay out of NATO; acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory; recognize the separatist republics of Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states. In other words, the Minsk Accords.
“Basically the Minsk Accords which Russia has agreed to in principle all along and the us has consistently scuttled. As [Russian foreign minister Sergi] Lavrov has stated on multiple occasions, ‘they refuse to negotiate.’ The last thing the US wants at this point is for peace to break out. From the US perspective the more dead Ukrainians, he better. Ukies need to wake up. There’s no doubt about who will ‘win’ this and Russia’s offer is not going to get any better.”
“I have checked all over the internet and see no reference this peace offer anywhere. Everything is ‘Biden to prohibit Russian energy imports.’ Also, and this is rich, apparently kissing Maduro’s ass to try to get oil from Venezuela. Just saw an article referring to Zelensky as a new Winston Churchill. And my guess is Biden wants to humiliate and completely defeat Putin, probably wants him gone. Then he can announce to the world that freedom has prevailed and get a big boost in his flagging approval ratings. The idea of rational conclusion to this bloody chapter may have gone away when Russian troops crossed the border, which would help explain [Washington’s] apparent refusal to really negotiate with Putin prior to invasion. Perhaps they were not completely displeased when the shooting started.”
Negotiate
It’s a shame, likely to kill a large number of soldiers and noncombatants. Instead of dismissing and burying Putin’s peace offer, the West should, well, negotiate to save lives and to pre-empt the slide to great nuclear power conflict. As the bloody battle for Kyiv beckons, what in the name of God would be so horrible about (a) pledging Ukrainian neutrality (maybe this could be negotiated down from a constitutional change), (b) officially accepting the fait accompli of Crimea’s incorporation into Russia, and (c) recognizing independence (or perhaps negotiating increased autonomy) in the two Russian-speaking breakaway provinces? How many more Russian and ordinary troops and how many Ukrainian civilians needs to die so that some version of the Minsk Accords can’t be implemented? Is the prevention of official Ukrainian neutrality and demilitarization really worth tens if not hundreds of thousands of deaths and potential escalation to nuclear winter? Seriously?
“the result will eventually be diplomatic discussions about just the sort of terms Putin has put forward — but after countless additional deaths and unimaginable suffering in Ukraine. The likelihood of Ukraine fighting Russia to the point at which Putin is willing to drop any demands is still extremely low, no matter how many weapons the West provides Ukraine. There’s a chance Putin will be overthrown, but at this moment in time that too is unlikely. Putin has more support in Russia than many western commentators seem willing to admit, and currently has a firm hold of the reins of power…A long, drawn-out war and the impact of sanctions will drain Russian support for Putin’s war, but we shouldn’t underestimate the strength of Putin’s resolve or patriotic elements within Russia.”
Wise words.
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/10/stop-this-imperialist-russian-war/
what is happening there and global cheer squads is insanity writ large.
i think this paert nails the disgusting aspect i find the most vile too ...
“Been watching these scenes of pain, misery, and cruelty for more than a week now, and I have hit a point where the commercials have become something different than they were before. Previously, before this all started, I sort of saw them as part of the creepy absurdity of late consumer capitalism and a bizarre manifestation of the obvious power behind the information I was being fed. I would turn the volume off when they came on. But it was just sort of the pathetic way our pathetic society did its pathetic thing. But now they seem like something way worse, way darker: something truly odious, disgusting, and quite frankly evil. These talking heads can go through scene after scene of absolute human depravity and then inform us they’ll be back after “this brief message” to show us some more depravity. They don’t blink an eye or even show embarrassment at what they are doing. It all just speaks volumes. How anyone could watch the juxtaposition of the two and find it anything but filthy and existentially hollow is beyond me. Real horror brought to you by evil absurdity… It’s not like this horrible stuff doesn’t happen on a regular basis, and of course a good deal of it the result of the degenerate late capitalism complex that also pukes up the Liberty Mutual commercials. But it is the way cable news is covering this particular horror story, and then they have the audacity to simply do the other shit without as much as a comment or an apology. It is really beyond description. And apparently Anderson Cooper and Erin Burnett and Lawrence O’Donnell don’t seem to notice or care at all, which makes it just surreal.”
These are things that the Frankfurt School, Aldous Huxley, Ray Bradbury, and Neal Postman, among others, have tried to warn us about. Like also-capitalist US foreign policy, it’s shameless, soulless, crass, cynical, cold, calculating. “The bourgeoisie,” two young and peripatetic German philosophers-turned-communists wrote in 1838, “has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation… All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned….” Capitalism is imperialist and it is also socio-pathological like the modern corporation and the military industrial complexes it has hatched.
No War but the People’s War
“Fight the Rich, Not Their Wars.”
“No to Putin, No to NATO: Stand with the People.”
“No War but the People’s War.”
“The Working People Have No Country.”
These slogans no doubt strike many liberals, and many “left” campists as empty platitudes. I disagree. We must press the war masters on both/all sides to negotiate for peace since there’s no social justice, no democracy, and no livable ecology for the common good on a war-levelled planet any more than on a climate-baked Earth. But we must also wage a people’s war on class rule and oligarchs of all national stripes for it is the chaotic and soulless capitalist order that most fundamentally gives rise to modern imperial war (and eco-cide) in the first place.
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/10/stop-this-imperialist-russian-war/
Victoria Nuland: Ukraine Has “Biological Research Facilities,” Worried Russia May Seize Them
March 11, 2022
Victoria Nuland: Ukraine Has “Biological Research Facilities,” Worried Russia May Seize Them
The neocon's confession sheds critical light on the U.S. role in Ukraine, and raises vital questions about these labs that deserve answers.

By Glenn Greenwald / Substack

Self-anointed “fact-checkers” in the U.S. corporate press have spent two weeksmocking as disinformation and a false conspiracy theory the claim that Ukraine has biological weapons labs, either alone or with U.S. support. They never presented any evidence for their ruling — how could they possibly know? and how could they prove the negative? — but nonetheless they invoked their characteristically authoritative, above-it-all tone of self-assurance and self-arrogated right to decree the truth, definitively labelling such claims false.

Claims that Ukraine currently maintains dangerous biological weapons labs came from Russia as well as China. The Chinese Foreign Ministry this month claimed: “The US has 336 labs in 30 countries under its control, including 26 in Ukraine alone.” The Russian Foreign Ministry asserted that “Russia obtained documents proving that Ukrainian biological laboratories located near Russian borders worked on development of components of biological weapons.” Such assertions deserve the same level of skepticism as U.S. denials: namely, none of it should be believed to be true or false absent evidence. Yet U.S. fact-checkers dutifully and reflexively sided with the U.S. Government to declare such claims “disinformation” and to mock them as QAnon conspiracy theories.

Unfortunately for this propaganda racket masquerading as neutral and high-minded fact-checking, the neocon official long in charge of U.S. policy in Ukraine testified on Monday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and strongly suggested that such claims are, at least in part, true. Yesterday afternoon, Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?”

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing further “proof” that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon. Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her, for neocons, and for senior U.S. foreign policy officials: for some reason, she told a version of the truth. Her answer visibly stunned Rubio, who — as soon as he realized the damage she was doing to the U.S. messaging campaign by telling the truth — interrupted her and demanded that she instead affirm that if a biological attack were to occur, everyone should be “100% sure” that it was Russia who did it. Grateful for the life raft, Nuland told Rubio he was right. [...]
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/11/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological-research-facilities-worried-russia-may-seize-them%ef%bf%bc/
Henosis Sage
2022-03-12 13:06:24 UTC
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On Saturday, 12 March 2022 at 18:47:24 UTC+11, Henosis Sage wrote:

UN Security Council on Ukraine’s Bio Research
March 12, 2022
We called this meeting because during the Russian special military operation in Ukraine, some shocking facts came to light: the Kiev regime is urgently concealing traces of a military biological program that Kiev implemented with support of the US Department of Defense.

Defense Ministry of Russia got hold of documents confirming that Ukraine developed a network of at least 30 biological laboratories that host extremely dangerous biological experiments, aimed at enhancing the pathogen properties of plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera, and other lethal diseases with the help of synthetic biology. This work is funded and directly supervised by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) of the United States, i.a. in the interests of Pentagon’s National Center for Medical Intelligence. The key role in these programs was played by a BSL-3 central reference laboratory at the Mechnikov Scientific-Research Anti-Plague Institute in Odessa, Ukraine. Research centers in other cities also played a role – Kiev, Lvov, Kharkov, Dnipro, Kherson, Ternopol, Uzhgorod, Vinnytsia. Research results were sent to US military biological centers, i.a. to U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infections Diseases, Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, US Naval Medical Research, and US Army Biological Warfare Labs in Fort Detrick that used to be the key hubs of the American biological weapons program.

All the materials are available at the website of Russian Ministry of Defense and are presented at daily briefings. Let me cite the most telling examples. ...........................................
with video
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/12/watch-un-security-council-on-ukraines-bio-research/

other reports
https://consortiumnews.com/
eg
Supreme Court: Torture at CIA Black Site Is ‘State Secret’
March 10, 2022
In a scathing dissent, Neil Gorsuch (trump appointed) accused the government of seeking dismissal of Abu Zubaydah’s petition to avoid “further embarrassment for past misdeeds.”
Henosis Sage
2022-03-12 13:24:25 UTC
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Post by Henosis Sage
UN Security Council on Ukraine’s Bio Research
March 12, 2022
We called this meeting because during the Russian special military operation in Ukraine, some shocking facts came to light: the Kiev regime is urgently concealing traces of a military biological program that Kiev implemented with support of the US Department of Defense.
Defense Ministry of Russia got hold of documents confirming that Ukraine developed a network of at least 30 biological laboratories that host extremely dangerous biological experiments, aimed at enhancing the pathogen properties of plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera, and other lethal diseases with the help of synthetic biology. This work is funded and directly supervised by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) of the United States, i.a. in the interests of Pentagon’s National Center for Medical Intelligence. The key role in these programs was played by a BSL-3 central reference laboratory at the Mechnikov Scientific-Research Anti-Plague Institute in Odessa, Ukraine. Research centers in other cities also played a role – Kiev, Lvov, Kharkov, Dnipro, Kherson, Ternopol, Uzhgorod, Vinnytsia. Research results were sent to US military biological centers, i.a. to U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infections Diseases, Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, US Naval Medical Research, and US Army Biological Warfare Labs in Fort Detrick that used to be the key hubs of the American biological weapons program.
All the materials are available at the website of Russian Ministry of Defense and are presented at daily briefings. Let me cite the most telling examples. ...........................................
with video
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/12/watch-un-security-council-on-ukraines-bio-research/
other reports
https://consortiumnews.com/
eg
Supreme Court: Torture at CIA Black Site Is ‘State Secret’
March 10, 2022
In a scathing dissent, Neil Gorsuch (trump appointed) accused the government of seeking dismissal of Abu Zubaydah’s petition to avoid “further embarrassment for past misdeeds.”
The settlement of the Ukraine war or its escalation to a NATO-Russia conflict with all that entails comes down to how far Ukraine will go to get the Western alliance involved in its war,

Western media (and gullible fools spreading propaganda on twitter and elsewhere) accept without question the Ukrainian version of events while Western governments and corporations shut down access to the Russian side of the story.

Thus the public everyday sees and reads reports of what appear to be totally unprovoked, gratuitous Russian attacks on Ukrainian civilians.

It is impossible to know exactly what is happening on the ground.

Russia says relatively little. But its version is that it only returns fire to Ukrainian units shooting out of populated areas, who are in effect using civilians as “human shields.” Russia says its ceasefires and humanitarian corridors in cities it encircles are being interrupted by nazi militias, especially in Mariupol, home of the Azov Battalion, who are preventing civilians from leaving. Ukraine and the West report Russia is luring the civilians out so they can kill them more easily.

Russia has absolutely nothing to gain from unprovoked killings of civilians, and everything to lose. Ukraine has NATO involvement to gain with the appearance of such killings. So far the U.N. High Commissioner of Human Rights reported on Friday 549 civilian deaths and 957 injured in the first 15 days of the Russian operation, numbers that pale in comparison to the first days of the 2003 U.S. campaign in Iraq, for instance, when 15,000 people were believed killed, 4,300 civilian. On Thursday, 115 peopled died from Covid-19 in Ukraine and there were 6,112 new cases.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/11/on-a-knifes-edge-in-ukraine/

Propaganda Shapes the Past, Present & Future
March 10, 2022
There is a famous quote from George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984, that goes, “those who control the present control the past and those who control the past control the future.” This process is achieved by substituting propaganda for reality. In so doing, thinking is bound to present culturally acceptable storylines that support official views of the past and are designed to carry on into the future.

At the present moment in the United States, this is exemplified by popular responses to two crises. The first involves a majority of U.S. states that are seeking to use political power to control how their past is officially taught and interpreted. This is being done with the hope of forging a unified view among future citizenry — one that returns to perceptions of U.S. history, race and gender characteristic of a time before the civil rights movement of the late 1950s and 1960s. This mindset accepts segregation and discrimination based on race, gender, sexual orientation and the like as reflections of acceptable traditional values.

The second crisis involves the revival of Cold War perceptions to shape the present and future U.S. public views concerning Russia and Ukraine. Here, the proffered story is of a bipolar world — one side, led by the United States, is allegedly a “free world” and the other side, led by Russia, is a hostile, dictatorial and expansionist world. These perceptions are characteristic of the time prior to 1989 and the collapse of the Soviet Union. It would seem this past point of view, like the domestic mindset mentioned above, never went away but only retreated. In this way, past manipulated mindsets reemerge into the present when circumstances are right, and threaten to ideologically skew the future.

Let’s examine these two crises beginning with the efforts of the American states.

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/10/propaganda-shapes-the-past-present-future/
Henosis Sage
2022-03-12 13:42:03 UTC
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Post by Henosis Sage
UN Security Council on Ukraine’s Bio Research
March 12, 2022
We called this meeting because during the Russian special military operation in Ukraine, some shocking facts came to light: the Kiev regime is urgently concealing traces of a military biological program that Kiev implemented with support of the US Department of Defense.
Defense Ministry of Russia got hold of documents confirming that Ukraine developed a network of at least 30 biological laboratories that host extremely dangerous biological experiments, aimed at enhancing the pathogen properties of plague, anthrax, tularemia, cholera, and other lethal diseases with the help of synthetic biology. This work is funded and directly supervised by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) of the United States, i.a. in the interests of Pentagon’s National Center for Medical Intelligence. The key role in these programs was played by a BSL-3 central reference laboratory at the Mechnikov Scientific-Research Anti-Plague Institute in Odessa, Ukraine. Research centers in other cities also played a role – Kiev, Lvov, Kharkov, Dnipro, Kherson, Ternopol, Uzhgorod, Vinnytsia. Research results were sent to US military biological centers, i.a. to U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infections Diseases, Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, US Naval Medical Research, and US Army Biological Warfare Labs in Fort Detrick that used to be the key hubs of the American biological weapons program.
All the materials are available at the website of Russian Ministry of Defense and are presented at daily briefings. Let me cite the most telling examples. ...........................................
with video
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/12/watch-un-security-council-on-ukraines-bio-research/
other reports
https://consortiumnews.com/
eg
Supreme Court: Torture at CIA Black Site Is ‘State Secret’
March 10, 2022
In a scathing dissent, Neil Gorsuch (trump appointed) accused the government of seeking dismissal of Abu Zubaydah’s petition to avoid “further embarrassment for past misdeeds.”
The settlement of the Ukraine war or its escalation to a NATO-Russia conflict with all that entails comes down to how far Ukraine will go to get the Western alliance involved in its war,
Western media (and gullible fools spreading propaganda on twitter and elsewhere) accept without question the Ukrainian version of events while Western governments and corporations shut down access to the Russian side of the story.
Thus the public everyday sees and reads reports of what appear to be totally unprovoked, gratuitous Russian attacks on Ukrainian civilians.
It is impossible to know exactly what is happening on the ground.
Russia says relatively little. But its version is that it only returns fire to Ukrainian units shooting out of populated areas, who are in effect using civilians as “human shields.” Russia says its ceasefires and humanitarian corridors in cities it encircles are being interrupted by nazi militias, especially in Mariupol, home of the Azov Battalion, who are preventing civilians from leaving. Ukraine and the West report Russia is luring the civilians out so they can kill them more easily.
Russia has absolutely nothing to gain from unprovoked killings of civilians, and everything to lose. Ukraine has NATO involvement to gain with the appearance of such killings. So far the U.N. High Commissioner of Human Rights reported on Friday 549 civilian deaths and 957 injured in the first 15 days of the Russian operation, numbers that pale in comparison to the first days of the 2003 U.S. campaign in Iraq, for instance, when 15,000 people were believed killed, 4,300 civilian. On Thursday, 115 peopled died from Covid-19 in Ukraine and there were 6,112 new cases.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/11/on-a-knifes-edge-in-ukraine/
Propaganda Shapes the Past, Present & Future
March 10, 2022
There is a famous quote from George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984, that goes, “those who control the present control the past and those who control the past control the future.” This process is achieved by substituting propaganda for reality. In so doing, thinking is bound to present culturally acceptable storylines that support official views of the past and are designed to carry on into the future.
At the present moment in the United States, this is exemplified by popular responses to two crises. The first involves a majority of U.S. states that are seeking to use political power to control how their past is officially taught and interpreted. This is being done with the hope of forging a unified view among future citizenry — one that returns to perceptions of U.S. history, race and gender characteristic of a time before the civil rights movement of the late 1950s and 1960s. This mindset accepts segregation and discrimination based on race, gender, sexual orientation and the like as reflections of acceptable traditional values.
The second crisis involves the revival of Cold War perceptions to shape the present and future U.S. public views concerning Russia and Ukraine. Here, the proffered story is of a bipolar world — one side, led by the United States, is allegedly a “free world” and the other side, led by Russia, is a hostile, dictatorial and expansionist world. These perceptions are characteristic of the time prior to 1989 and the collapse of the Soviet Union. It would seem this past point of view, like the domestic mindset mentioned above, never went away but only retreated. In this way, past manipulated mindsets reemerge into the present when circumstances are right, and threaten to ideologically skew the future.
Let’s examine these two crises beginning with the efforts of the American states.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/10/propaganda-shapes-the-past-present-future/
MASS PROPAGANDA [ IE DISSEMINATING KNOWN LIES] AMERICAN STYLE ...... 2004

Washington Post apologises for underplaying WMD scepticism
Gary Younge
@garyyounge
Fri 13 Aug 2004

The Washington Post said yesterday it had underplayed scepticism of the White House's claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, becoming the latest US newspaper to publish a mea culpa of its prewar coverage.

In a 3,000-word front-page article the newspaper said it "did not pay enough attention to voices raising questions about the war".

The admission followed similar articles by the New York Times and New Republic magazine, which said they were either insufficiently rigorous, gullible or more concerned with getting stories first than getting them right.

Leonard Downie, the Post's executive editor, said: "We were so focused on trying to figure out what the administration was doing that we were not giving the same play to people who said it wouldn't be a good idea to go to war ... Not enough of those stories were put on the front page. That was a mistake on my part. [Across the country] the voices raising questions about the war were the lonely ones. We didn't pay enough attention to the minority."

The Post's editorials favoured the war. The day after Colin Powell, the US secretary of state, made his pivotal presentation to the UN, its leader said: "It is hard to imagine how anyone could doubt that Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction."

Its more sceptical news articles were relegated to the back of the paper, while the White House's pronouncements, which have since been proved erroneous, were given front-page treatment.

"The result," said media correspondent Howard Kurtz in the Post, "was coverage that, despite flashes of groundbreaking reporting, in hindsight looks strikingly one-sided at times."

Michael Massing, whose forthcoming book Now They Tell Us rebukes the American press for its coverage of the war, said: "On the key issue of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction the paper was generally napping along with everyone else. It gave readers little hint of the doubts that a number of intelligence analysts had about the administration's claims regarding Iraq's arsenal".
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/aug/13/pressandpublishing.usa

NOTHING HAS CHANGED ONLY THIS TIME THE TARGETS ARE BOTH NUCLEAR ARMED ... AND DEADLY SERIOUS
Henosis Sage
2022-03-12 14:39:54 UTC
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On Sunday, 13 March 2022 at 00:42:04 UTC+11, Henosis Sage wrote:

LYING AND FEARMONGERING IS EASY .....

RT's Afshin Rattansi on Ukraine and Censorship
11,172 views
12 Mar 2022


Click here for the extended episode, including the full interview with Afshin Rattansi: https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/e...
Click here for Aaron's take on the Young Turks meltdown: https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/a...

Afshin Rattansi’s show Going Underground is becoming harder and harder to see as the US, UK, and EU have all censored the RT. But Afshin has some good news for viewers:

“With a VPN, you can always say you don’t live in unfree places like the US or Europe or Britain, and say you live in Pyongyang where there is freedom to watch it.”

Rattansi, whose channel RT has become known as pro-Russia propaganda, regularly calls out the Russian invasion and has guests who condemn Russian aggression. But that doesn’t fit with the western narrative for the channel, so we don’t actually get to see him. If only we lived in North Korea.

In this interview, we examine the problems that led to the crisis in Ukraine and how world leaders dangerously get history wrong.

“Scholars only talk about Putin and Putin’s mind. This is corollary to the idea that WWII was about Adolph Hitler and not the Treaty of Versailles and the impoverishment of the German people after the war of reparations.”

Without understanding the structures around leaders, like the hawkish state department and Russian Duma, “we’re in the realm of Marvel comics and Hollywood individual good and evil.”

This individualism is what leads people to blindly call for a no-fly zone, which sounds good in terms of good-against-evil, but in reality, will only cause more destruction.

Or, as Rattansi puts it: “It’ll be the end of the earth.”

In this episode of Useful Idiots, we analyze no-fly zones, media censorship, and the path to peace in Ukraine. And we get treated to a very fun letter from Donald Trump.
Henosis Sage
2022-03-13 13:04:14 UTC
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Post by Henosis Sage
LYING AND FEARMONGERING IS EASY .....
RT's Afshin Rattansi on Ukraine and Censorship
11,172 views
12 Mar 2022
http://youtu.be/smnFKKeHCdo
Click here for the extended episode, including the full interview with Afshin Rattansi: https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/e...
Click here for Aaron's take on the Young Turks meltdown: https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/a...
“With a VPN, you can always say you don’t live in unfree places like the US or Europe or Britain, and say you live in Pyongyang where there is freedom to watch it.”
Rattansi, whose channel RT has become known as pro-Russia propaganda, regularly calls out the Russian invasion and has guests who condemn Russian aggression. But that doesn’t fit with the western narrative for the channel, so we don’t actually get to see him. If only we lived in North Korea.
In this interview, we examine the problems that led to the crisis in Ukraine and how world leaders dangerously get history wrong.
“Scholars only talk about Putin and Putin’s mind. This is corollary to the idea that WWII was about Adolph Hitler and not the Treaty of Versailles and the impoverishment of the German people after the war of reparations.”
Without understanding the structures around leaders, like the hawkish state department and Russian Duma, “we’re in the realm of Marvel comics and Hollywood individual good and evil.”
This individualism is what leads people to blindly call for a no-fly zone, which sounds good in terms of good-against-evil, but in reality, will only cause more destruction.
Or, as Rattansi puts it: “It’ll be the end of the earth.”
In this episode of Useful Idiots, we analyze no-fly zones, media censorship, and the path to peace in Ukraine. And we get treated to a very fun letter from Donald Trump.
Commentary, Russia, Ukraine, War Crimes
In Praise of ‘Whataboutism’
March 13, 2022

Anyone who speaks out against imperialism, capitalism, or racism with concrete examples of the terrible harm they do, can expect to be charged with the dreaded term “whataboutism.” Like clockwork, the act of revealing American crimes will result in an accusation that is used to silence dissent.

When war propaganda prevails regarding Ukraine or any other place where the hegemon is doing its dirty work, it is reasonable to ask probing questions. Why are the deaths of 14,000 people killed by Ukraine’s civil war swept under the rug? Why is it forbidden to ask about the U.S. destruction of Libya? But once having asked a good question, one will be told that raising the topic is proof of the whataboutism sin.

The word whataboutism is in the dictionary and is defined as, “the act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse.” That meaning is accurate and also completely defensible.

The charge is meant to censor the speaker, excuse U.S. actions, and defend its human rights violations. The denials and apologies are exactly why whataboutism should be defended. It is terrible when lies and crimes are not countered with verifiable information exposing them.

https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/13/in-praise-of-whataboutism/
Henosis Sage
2022-03-15 12:53:59 UTC
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On Monday, 14 March 2022 at 00:04:15 UTC+11, Henosis Sage wrote:


CHRIS HEDGES ..... EX-WAR CORRESPONDENT ... SUMS UP THE STATE OF PLAY .... 2ND PART OF ARTICLE
Waltzing Toward Armageddon with the Merchants of Death

March 14, 2022

The moral hypocrisy of the United States is staggering. The crimes Russia is carrying out in Ukraine are more than matched by the crimes committed by Washington in the Middle East over the last two decades, including the act of preemptive war, which under post-Nuremberg laws is a criminal act of aggression. Only rarely is this hypocrisy exposed as when USAmbassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield told the body: “We’ve seen videos of Russian forces moving exceptionally lethal weaponry into Ukraine, which has no place on the battlefield. That includes cluster munitions and vacuum bombs which are banned under the Geneva Convention.” Hours later, the official transcript of her remark was amended to tack on the words “if they are directed against civilians.” This is because the U.S., which like Russia never ratified the Convention on Cluster Munitions treaty, regularly uses cluster munitions. It used them in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, and Iraq. It has provided them to Saudi Arabia for use in Yemen. Russia has yet to come close to the tally of civilian deaths from cluster munitions delivered by the US military.

The Dr. Strangeloves, like zombies rising from the mass graves they created around the globe, are once again stoking new campaigns of industrial mass slaughter. No diplomacy. No attempt to address the legitimate grievances of our adversaries. No check on rampant militarism. No capacity to see the world from another perspective. No ability to comprehend reality outside the confines of the binary rubric of good and evil. No understanding of the debacles they orchestrated for decades. No capacity for pity or remorse.

Elliot Abrams worked in the Reagan administration when I was reporting from Central America. He covered up atrocities and massacres committed by the military regimes in El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and by the US-backed Contra forces fighting the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. He viciously attacked reporters and human rights groups as communists or fifth columnists, calling us “un-American” and “unpatriotic.” He was convicted for lying to Congress about his role in the Iran-Contra affair. During the administration of George W. Bush, he lobbied for the invasion of Iraq and tried to orchestrate a U.S. coup in Venezuela to overthrow Hugo Chávez.

“There will be no substitute for military strength, and we do not have enough,” writes Abrams for the Council on Foreign Relations, where he is a senior fellow: “It should be crystal clear now that a larger percentage of GDP will need to be spent on defense. We will need more conventional strength in ships and planes. We will need to match the Chinese in advanced military technology, but at the other end of the spectrum, we may need many more tanks if we have to station thousands in Europe, as we did during the Cold War. (The total number of American tanks permanently stationed in Europe today is zero.) Persistent efforts to diminish even further the size of our nuclear arsenal or prevent its modernization were always bad ideas, but now, as China and Russia are modernizing their nuclear weaponry and appear to have no interest in negotiating new limits, such restraints should be completely abandoned. Our nuclear arsenal will need to be modernized and expanded so that we will never face the kinds of threats Putin is now making from a position of real nuclear inferiority.”

Putin played into the hands of the war industry. He gave the warmongers what they wanted. He fulfilled their wildest fantasies. There will be no impediments now on the march to Armageddon. Military budgets will soar. The oil will gush from the ground. The climate crisis will accelerate. China and Russia will form the new axis of evil. The poor will be abandoned. The roads across the earth will be clogged with desperate refugees. All dissent will be treason. The young will be sacrificed for the tired tropes of glory, honor, and country. The vulnerable will suffer and die. The only true patriots will be generals, war profiteers, opportunists, courtiers in the media and demagogues braying for more and more blood. The merchants of death rule like Olympian gods. And we, cowed by fear, intoxicated by war, swept up in the collective hysteria, clamor for our own annihilation.

READ IT IN FULL..... AND OTHERS ARTICLES
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/14/hedges-waltzing-toward-armageddon-with-the-merchants-of-death/
Henosis Sage
2022-03-15 13:03:30 UTC
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Post by Henosis Sage
CHRIS HEDGES ..... EX-WAR CORRESPONDENT ... SUMS UP THE STATE OF PLAY .... 2ND PART OF ARTICLE
Waltzing Toward Armageddon with the Merchants of Death
March 14, 2022
The moral hypocrisy of the United States is staggering. The crimes Russia is carrying out in Ukraine are more than matched by the crimes committed by Washington in the Middle East over the last two decades, including the act of preemptive war, which under post-Nuremberg laws is a criminal act of aggression. Only rarely is this hypocrisy exposed as when USAmbassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield told the body: “We’ve seen videos of Russian forces moving exceptionally lethal weaponry into Ukraine, which has no place on the battlefield. That includes cluster munitions and vacuum bombs which are banned under the Geneva Convention.” Hours later, the official transcript of her remark was amended to tack on the words “if they are directed against civilians.” This is because the U.S., which like Russia never ratified the Convention on Cluster Munitions treaty, regularly uses cluster munitions. It used them in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, and Iraq. It has provided them to Saudi Arabia for use in Yemen. Russia has yet to come close to the tally of civilian deaths from cluster munitions delivered by the US military.
The Dr. Strangeloves, like zombies rising from the mass graves they created around the globe, are once again stoking new campaigns of industrial mass slaughter. No diplomacy. No attempt to address the legitimate grievances of our adversaries. No check on rampant militarism. No capacity to see the world from another perspective. No ability to comprehend reality outside the confines of the binary rubric of good and evil. No understanding of the debacles they orchestrated for decades. No capacity for pity or remorse.
Elliot Abrams worked in the Reagan administration when I was reporting from Central America. He covered up atrocities and massacres committed by the military regimes in El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and by the US-backed Contra forces fighting the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. He viciously attacked reporters and human rights groups as communists or fifth columnists, calling us “un-American” and “unpatriotic.” He was convicted for lying to Congress about his role in the Iran-Contra affair. During the administration of George W. Bush, he lobbied for the invasion of Iraq and tried to orchestrate a U.S. coup in Venezuela to overthrow Hugo Chávez.
“There will be no substitute for military strength, and we do not have enough,” writes Abrams for the Council on Foreign Relations, where he is a senior fellow: “It should be crystal clear now that a larger percentage of GDP will need to be spent on defense. We will need more conventional strength in ships and planes. We will need to match the Chinese in advanced military technology, but at the other end of the spectrum, we may need many more tanks if we have to station thousands in Europe, as we did during the Cold War. (The total number of American tanks permanently stationed in Europe today is zero.) Persistent efforts to diminish even further the size of our nuclear arsenal or prevent its modernization were always bad ideas, but now, as China and Russia are modernizing their nuclear weaponry and appear to have no interest in negotiating new limits, such restraints should be completely abandoned. Our nuclear arsenal will need to be modernized and expanded so that we will never face the kinds of threats Putin is now making from a position of real nuclear inferiority.”
Putin played into the hands of the war industry. He gave the warmongers what they wanted. He fulfilled their wildest fantasies. There will be no impediments now on the march to Armageddon. Military budgets will soar. The oil will gush from the ground. The climate crisis will accelerate. China and Russia will form the new axis of evil. The poor will be abandoned. The roads across the earth will be clogged with desperate refugees. All dissent will be treason. The young will be sacrificed for the tired tropes of glory, honor, and country. The vulnerable will suffer and die. The only true patriots will be generals, war profiteers, opportunists, courtiers in the media and demagogues braying for more and more blood. The merchants of death rule like Olympian gods. And we, cowed by fear, intoxicated by war, swept up in the collective hysteria, clamor for our own annihilation.
READ IT IN FULL..... AND OTHERS ARTICLES
https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/14/hedges-waltzing-toward-armageddon-with-the-merchants-of-death/
COMMENTS

Dying empires, like cornered and wounded animals, lash out and snarl for all they’re worth, refusing to see that their days are numbered. Unfortunately, this lashing out takes millions of innocent lives.

Regarding the hypocrisy of the USA and the rest of the world having a meltdown of mass hysteria around Russia attacking Ukraine I offer the following article that shows all the countries attacked and deaths due to the USA since WWII. It is estimated that somewhere between 20 to 30 million folks have died as a result of the USA and its love for war and profit off of them.
https://countercurrents.org/lucas240407.htm

As far as I am concerned all wars are crimes. But I sit and shake my head at all the deaths and wars the USA is responsible for and never did it receive such outrage and sanctions for its outright illegal attacks on sovereign nations. I am so damn tired and angry as the USA projects its own lust for violence against other countries who act in the same manner (although arguably far less than the USA) as the latest face of evil incarnate.

I’ve never witnessed such mass hysteria against a nation as Russia in this latest incident while the USA has done far worse for decades with nary a finger wagged its way.

The USA is by far the world’s largest terrorist nation and yet it is never held accountable for all the death and destruction it has wrought an any meaningful manner. I detest the country of my birth for the hell it has wrought upon the earth since its founding. And all the while the USA is pointing fingers at others in the world, it is rapidly collapsing from within politically, economically, environmentally and so forth.

But the USA will keep on waging war on others until the bitter end because that is how it was founded and knows no other way to be. We are now in the final days and they will be ever more darker and more dystopian with the USA leading the way.

https://scheerpost.com/2022/03/14/hedges-waltzing-toward-armageddon-with-the-merchants-of-death/#comment-27133

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