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Etznab
2021-11-25 14:00:51 UTC
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Haven't yet read the last four Advice Team posts, but what brought me here today was an article I viewed about the Pluto return; which for America is still happening. Here is a quote:

"... The US has Virgo and Pisces intercepted in the 9th and 3rd houses of belief systems and communication. From the standpoint of a mundane chart, interceptions in these houses indicate a karmic failure on the part of the collective to define personal convictions. Instead, the populace looks to perceived thought leaders, and increasingly to online social platforms. This would explain the pervasive spread of conspiracy theories, and the growing inability to discern whether the news of the day is real or fake. [... .]"

https://bravelyalive.com/burning-down-the-house-plutos-return/

The article is about a year and a half old already (June 2020), yet it carries a lot of good historical trivia IMO. Looking at riots from the mid 60's in context to today, etc. and a lot of other pointers.
Etznab
2021-11-25 14:17:42 UTC
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Post by Etznab
"... The US has Virgo and Pisces intercepted in the 9th and 3rd houses of belief systems and communication. From the standpoint of a mundane chart, interceptions in these houses indicate a karmic failure on the part of the collective to define personal convictions. Instead, the populace looks to perceived thought leaders, and increasingly to online social platforms. This would explain the pervasive spread of conspiracy theories, and the growing inability to discern whether the news of the day is real or fake. [... .]"
https://bravelyalive.com/burning-down-the-house-plutos-return/
The article is about a year and a half old already (June 2020), yet it carries a lot of good historical trivia IMO. Looking at riots from the mid 60's in context to today, etc. and a lot of other pointers.
From another linked article from around the time of Christmas 2020:

Solstice And The Great Conjunction

"On Monday, December 21st, just hours after the arrival of the Winter Solstice, Jupiter and Saturn join together in an astrological event known as a Great Conjunction. The two planets are converging at 00 degrees 29 minutes Aquarius. This marks the beginning of a 20 year cycle of change and innovation."

https://bravelyalive.com/the-great-conjunction-the-age-of-aquarius/

Found another quote of that page.

"Keep in mind that the energetic shift that follows major astrological events is not immediately noticeable. It’s not like the flip of a switch. It may take several years for us to feel the full effects of the cultural move towards Aquarian values."
Henosis Sage
2021-11-26 12:27:40 UTC
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Post by Etznab
"... The US has Virgo and Pisces intercepted in the 9th and 3rd houses of belief systems and communication. From the standpoint of a mundane chart, interceptions in these houses indicate a karmic failure on the part of the collective to define personal convictions. Instead, the populace looks to perceived thought leaders, and increasingly to online social platforms. This would explain the pervasive spread of conspiracy theories, and the growing inability to discern whether the news of the day is real or fake. [... .]"
https://bravelyalive.com/burning-down-the-house-plutos-return/
The article is about a year and a half old already (June 2020), yet it carries a lot of good historical trivia IMO. Looking at riots from the mid 60's in context to today, etc. and a lot of other pointers.
thx I read that. makes sense to me. :)

It also reminded of the many times native Americans have shown up in recent years fighting protesting against oil pipelines going through their lands, and potentially impacting fresh water needs and access etc etc .. and how they were treated by the govt and police and the media every single time. seems connected. as does US responsibility for contributing the largest share of cumulative GHG emissions and warming of the planet than any other by an order of magnitude. like 5% of worlds population on avg contributing over 25% all cumulative global warming and the damage that is already doing ....

damage and loss, and reparations it's a key part of the paris agreement not being addressed properly. It;s a big trigger point for Equity and fairness. But the US has been very effective at using it's massive * wealth and power * to avoid anything resembling accountability and paying it's fair share and not continuing in eating into the tiny carbon budget that's left (4-8 years) to remain under 1.5C .... as in all the 2050 net zero stuff is .... Fake News basically. It's all moot ...

anyway these things came to mind and possibly they are connected to the pluto return as well .... the impacts upon the poorer sections of US society are very much going to be much bigger affected by climate change extreme weather rising costs etc than the powerful and wealthy of the land.

I mean who (which group/body/class/sex) has done the best out of the US System since 1776?
Henosis Sage
2021-11-26 12:37:57 UTC
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Post by Etznab
"... The US has Virgo and Pisces intercepted in the 9th and 3rd houses of belief systems and communication. From the standpoint of a mundane chart, interceptions in these houses indicate a karmic failure on the part of the collective to define personal convictions. Instead, the populace looks to perceived thought leaders, and increasingly to online social platforms. This would explain the pervasive spread of conspiracy theories, and the growing inability to discern whether the news of the day is real or fake. [... .]"
https://bravelyalive.com/burning-down-the-house-plutos-return/
The article is about a year and a half old already (June 2020), yet it carries a lot of good historical trivia IMO. Looking at riots from the mid 60's in context to today, etc. and a lot of other pointers.
thx I read that. makes sense to me. :)
It also reminded of the many times native Americans have shown up in recent years fighting protesting against oil pipelines going through their lands, and potentially impacting fresh water needs and access etc etc .. and how they were treated by the govt and police and the media every single time. seems connected. as does US responsibility for contributing the largest share of cumulative GHG emissions and warming of the planet than any other by an order of magnitude. like 5% of worlds population on avg contributing over 25% all cumulative global warming and the damage that is already doing ....
damage and loss, and reparations it's a key part of the paris agreement not being addressed properly. It;s a big trigger point for Equity and fairness. But the US has been very effective at using it's massive * wealth and power * to avoid anything resembling accountability and paying it's fair share and not continuing in eating into the tiny carbon budget that's left (4-8 years) to remain under 1.5C .... as in all the 2050 net zero stuff is .... Fake News basically. It's all moot ...
anyway these things came to mind and possibly they are connected to the pluto return as well .... the impacts upon the poorer sections of US society are very much going to be much bigger affected by climate change extreme weather rising costs etc than the powerful and wealthy of the land.
I mean who (which group/body/class/sex) has done the best out of the US System since 1776?
PS I also think that Trumps success is based on the internalized feelings of many that the US has passed it's prime, they they have been left behind and so the make America great again slogan was really effective .... it;s how people really feel, in the past it was great to be American ... not so today. For most it is extreme y challenging. Not if you are one of the 90% less wealthy and less powerful in the country.

Did you know there are 90 countries with populations lower than the US Prison population?

Maybe it is true that Americans are born Criminals much more often than the rest of the planet's children? Seriously .. it's a strange one.

I saw another news report where thousands of women every year are charged with illegal abortions for having miscarriages. There's is really something quite sick at the core of US laws and it's legal system over and above how dysfunctional and corrupt it is. Oh well, there but for the grace of God go I ....
Henosis Sage
2021-11-26 12:52:55 UTC
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Post by Etznab
"... The US has Virgo and Pisces intercepted in the 9th and 3rd houses of belief systems and communication. From the standpoint of a mundane chart, interceptions in these houses indicate a karmic failure on the part of the collective to define personal convictions. Instead, the populace looks to perceived thought leaders, and increasingly to online social platforms. This would explain the pervasive spread of conspiracy theories, and the growing inability to discern whether the news of the day is real or fake. [... .]"
https://bravelyalive.com/burning-down-the-house-plutos-return/
The article is about a year and a half old already (June 2020), yet it carries a lot of good historical trivia IMO. Looking at riots from the mid 60's in context to today, etc. and a lot of other pointers.
and then I thought of critical race theory .... two birds with one stone, captures fake news bs across social media and politics .... and beliefs and the divide over race issues etc. a conservative / gop response to BLM protests etc.

Fake news in that no where is critical race theory taught in US schools ... it simply doesn't happen has zero reality to it. School boards banning it is truly insane disconnected from reality. which kinds fits the overall US mindset left or right leaning. :)

no offense intended to anyone. mere observations of the world.
Henosis Sage
2021-11-26 13:00:46 UTC
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Post by Etznab
"... The US has Virgo and Pisces intercepted in the 9th and 3rd houses of belief systems and communication. From the standpoint of a mundane chart, interceptions in these houses indicate a karmic failure on the part of the collective to define personal convictions. Instead, the populace looks to perceived thought leaders, and increasingly to online social platforms. This would explain the pervasive spread of conspiracy theories, and the growing inability to discern whether the news of the day is real or fake. [... .]"
https://bravelyalive.com/burning-down-the-house-plutos-return/
The article is about a year and a half old already (June 2020), yet it carries a lot of good historical trivia IMO. Looking at riots from the mid 60's in context to today, etc. and a lot of other pointers.
and then I thought of critical race theory .... two birds with one stone, captures fake news bs across social media and politics .... and beliefs and the divide over race issues etc. a conservative / gop response to BLM protests etc.
Fake news in that no where is critical race theory taught in US schools ... it simply doesn't happen has zero reality to it. School boards banning it is truly insane disconnected from reality. which kinds fits the overall US mindset left or right leaning. :)
no offense intended to anyone. mere observations of the world.
eg

Racial identity was a fundamental issue for conservatives emerging from the civil rights era, as Connie Marshner makes clear in her explanation of why to care about school curricula in the first place. “Ours is an age of neo-ethnicity,” she wrote. “Blacks are proud to be blacks, and want their public education system to foster that pride in their offspring; Chicanos want Chicano language, customs and attitudes taught to their children. Middle-class whites do not agitate for ‘white studies’ courses; the equivalent demand is for traditional American and Christian values,” she wrote. For Marshner and the new right, traditional American and Christian values equaled the “neo-ethnicity” of whiteness without calling it white. This, then, is one of the West Virginia textbook conflict’s legacies for the Republican party. It taught them how to fight against inclusive, culturally diverse and multi-ethnic education without saying you are fighting for a white-oriented, white-dominated and white-privileging curriculum.

and

Any last thoughts on what the textbook controversy can teach us?

Most US residents are anticipating with dread or hope the election year of 2024. I have no doubt that the West Virginia textbook controversy will be resurrected in service to politics as its 50th anniversary is commemorated and analyzed the same year. To understand the extent to which the textbook war of 1974 is a precursor to current and recent populist protests, it is imperative to address multiple influences and not to fall into old stereotypes about Appalachians, such as their supposed inherent violence, intolerance and hillbilly penchant for feuding. Equally important is to avoid more romantic stereotypes that glorify Appalachians as noble frontiersmen and courageous resisters to modern corruptions.

In 1974 a multi-ethnic language arts curriculum was offered up as the corruption to be fought. In 2024 the supposed corruptions will have multiplied. And this time, as opposed to the 1960s and 70s when white poverty was seen as something that could be addressed with social programs, rural white poverty is now pathologized much as Black urban poverty was before: as a matter of laziness and improper family formations. Rightwing forces – from mainstream conservatives to militant insurrectionists – again are in a state of transition and, if the textbook controversy was any harbinger of what works for rightwing America – they will surely use moral panics over education and conflicts in Appalachia to their advantage.

from
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/25/west-virginia-textbook-battle-gop-blue-collar
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