Original IMSIAF Chapter 11 -- The Ananai (July 1956)

Post by Santim Vah
In the original *In My Soul I Am Free* book published by Lancer Books
NYC in 1968, there is an Author's Note by Brad Steiger which reads in
"Part II of IMSIAF is made up of a number of essays and teachings
which Paul Twitchell has given on Eckankar. .... Chapter 11 appeared
originally in The Ananai (July 1956)."
Thanks to the hard work and patience of Artemis, we have been able to
secure an Original copy of the THE ANANAI - VOL. 7 NO. 7 JULY 1956
Some scanned pages of this Ananai monthly magazine edition may be read
http://tinyurl.com/1956-07-ananai-front-cover
http://tinyurl.com/1956-07-Ananai-about-contents
http://tinyurl.com/1956-07-ananai-PT-part1
http://tinyurl.com/1956-07-ananai-PT-part2
Thank you,
Sean

Why wasn't that version a part of "The Whole Truth"?

Well. Maybe now IT IS :)

Etznab

Doug

2010-02-06 23:32:33 UTC

Sean,

This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.

I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.

Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?

If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."

This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.

I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!

I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.

I also find it interesting how similar some of the words Paul wrote
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.

Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?

Doug.

Etznab

2010-02-07 03:38:51 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Something related to part of your post, perhaps.

Dialogues With The Master was reportedly written
in 1956. The same year as that Ananai article. Well,
I was trying to figure out what this reference to great
ruler of the seventh plane was about. It appears both
in the 1956 Ananai article and Chap. 11 of IMSIAF.
Ananai has Sat Nam, whereas IMSIAF has "Sugmad".
(Sugmad in italics, that is).

It was while searching Chapter 16 of DWTM - THE
COSMIC WORLDS - that I recognized somehting. I
recognized how similar that chapter is with Chapter
One from The Far Country (Chap. One is also called
The Far Country). These chapters from the two diff-
erent book (written 1956 and 1963?) talk about the
objective and subjective aspects of the planes. They
cover the 1st through 5th and then add about three,
or four, above the Soul Plane. The rulers in the high
planes are called Purushas. TFC is a little different
as it mentions "Advaita".

Check those chapters out sometime and see what
I mean.

Anyhow, I still can't fathom why Paul had Sat Nam,
or "Sugmad" connected with the seventh plane. The
Soul Plane and Sat Nam are generally (nowadays)
associated with the 5th plane. SUGMAD ... well ...
p. 105 of DWTM mentions: "Above the fifth region
are worlds beyond description, and the ones living
there under the Supreme Being called The SUGMAD,
a living force, not a being, nor anything but life itself."
Page 24 of TFC has: "This Advaita is not a being, nor
anything but life itself, a living force that is called the
ECK."

I think it's important to remember the time period
for writing of the DWTM manuscript. And how the
time period was relatively contemporary with that
Ananai article. And though TFC was written years
later, it does appear to have at least one chapter
with a lot of the same material as DWTM. Both of
the books have Rebazar Tarzs speaking to Paul
Twitchell. The words being in quotation marks.

Man am I having fun!

Any ideas about the seventh plane region and how
that ties in with Sat Nam & SUGMAD? The latter
appears to be the "word" for the Soul Plane. Even
according to the Eckankar Lexicon.

Etznab

Doug

2010-02-13 23:25:43 UTC

Post by Etznab

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Something related to part of your post, perhaps.
Dialogues With The Master was reportedly written
in 1956. The same year as that Ananai article. Well,
I was trying to figure out what this reference to great
ruler of the seventh plane was about. It appears both
in the 1956 Ananai article and Chap. 11 of IMSIAF.
Ananai has Sat Nam, whereas IMSIAF has "Sugmad".
(Sugmad in italics, that is).
It was while searching Chapter 16 of DWTM - THE
COSMIC WORLDS - that I recognized somehting. I
recognized how similar that chapter is with Chapter
One from The Far Country (Chap. One is also called
The Far Country). These chapters from the two diff-
erent book (written 1956 and 1963?) talk about the
objective and subjective aspects of the planes. They
cover the 1st through 5th and then add about three,
or four, above the Soul Plane. The rulers in the high
planes are called Purushas. TFC is a little different
as it mentions "Advaita".
Check those chapters out sometime and see what
I mean.
Anyhow, I still can't fathom why Paul had Sat Nam,
or "Sugmad" connected with the seventh plane. The
Soul Plane and Sat Nam are generally (nowadays)
associated with the 5th plane. SUGMAD ... well ...
p. 105 of DWTM mentions: "Above the fifth region
are worlds beyond description, and the ones living
there under the Supreme Being called The SUGMAD,
a living force, not a being, nor anything but life itself."
Page 24 of TFC has: "This Advaita is not a being, nor
anything but life itself, a living force that is called the
ECK."
I think it's important to remember the time period
for writing of the DWTM manuscript. And how the
time period was relatively contemporary with that
Ananai article. And though TFC was written years
later, it does appear to have at least one chapter
with a lot of the same material as DWTM. Both of
the books have Rebazar Tarzs speaking to Paul
Twitchell. The words being in quotation marks.
Man am I having fun!
Any ideas about the seventh plane region and how
that ties in with Sat Nam & SUGMAD? The latter
appears to be the "word" for the Soul Plane. Even
according to the Eckankar Lexicon.
Etznab

Etznab,

This is what I referred to in my book, The Whole Truth, on page 447.

You discovered the same thing I did.

That's when I realized that the dialogue in DWTM was what he was
referring to as the basis for where The Far Country came from. See
what I wrote about it on page 446.

Doug.

Etznab

2015-12-21 17:53:25 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Something related to part of your post, perhaps.
Dialogues With The Master was reportedly written
in 1956. The same year as that Ananai article. Well,
I was trying to figure out what this reference to great
ruler of the seventh plane was about. It appears both
in the 1956 Ananai article and Chap. 11 of IMSIAF.
Ananai has Sat Nam, whereas IMSIAF has "Sugmad".
(Sugmad in italics, that is).
It was while searching Chapter 16 of DWTM - THE
COSMIC WORLDS - that I recognized somehting. I
recognized how similar that chapter is with Chapter
One from The Far Country (Chap. One is also called
The Far Country). These chapters from the two diff-
erent book (written 1956 and 1963?) talk about the
objective and subjective aspects of the planes. They
cover the 1st through 5th and then add about three,
or four, above the Soul Plane. The rulers in the high
planes are called Purushas. TFC is a little different
as it mentions "Advaita".
Check those chapters out sometime and see what
I mean.
Anyhow, I still can't fathom why Paul had Sat Nam,
or "Sugmad" connected with the seventh plane. The
Soul Plane and Sat Nam are generally (nowadays)
associated with the 5th plane. SUGMAD ... well ...
p. 105 of DWTM mentions: "Above the fifth region
are worlds beyond description, and the ones living
there under the Supreme Being called The SUGMAD,
a living force, not a being, nor anything but life itself."
Page 24 of TFC has: "This Advaita is not a being, nor
anything but life itself, a living force that is called the
ECK."
I think it's important to remember the time period
for writing of the DWTM manuscript. And how the
time period was relatively contemporary with that
Ananai article. And though TFC was written years
later, it does appear to have at least one chapter
with a lot of the same material as DWTM. Both of
the books have Rebazar Tarzs speaking to Paul
Twitchell. The words being in quotation marks.
Man am I having fun!
Any ideas about the seventh plane region and how
that ties in with Sat Nam & SUGMAD? The latter
appears to be the "word" for the Soul Plane. Even
according to the Eckankar Lexicon.
Etznab

Etznab,
This is what I referred to in my book, The Whole Truth, on page 447.
You discovered the same thing I did.
That's when I realized that the dialogue in DWTM was what he was
referring to as the basis for where The Far Country came from. See
what I wrote about it on page 446.
Doug.

Has anybody checked that Ananai article to see if it quoted Kirpal Singh?

Etznab

2016-01-02 16:00:44 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Something related to part of your post, perhaps.
Dialogues With The Master was reportedly written
in 1956. The same year as that Ananai article. Well,
I was trying to figure out what this reference to great
ruler of the seventh plane was about. It appears both
in the 1956 Ananai article and Chap. 11 of IMSIAF.
Ananai has Sat Nam, whereas IMSIAF has "Sugmad".
(Sugmad in italics, that is).
It was while searching Chapter 16 of DWTM - THE
COSMIC WORLDS - that I recognized somehting. I
recognized how similar that chapter is with Chapter
One from The Far Country (Chap. One is also called
The Far Country). These chapters from the two diff-
erent book (written 1956 and 1963?) talk about the
objective and subjective aspects of the planes. They
cover the 1st through 5th and then add about three,
or four, above the Soul Plane. The rulers in the high
planes are called Purushas. TFC is a little different
as it mentions "Advaita".
Check those chapters out sometime and see what
I mean.
Anyhow, I still can't fathom why Paul had Sat Nam,
or "Sugmad" connected with the seventh plane. The
Soul Plane and Sat Nam are generally (nowadays)
associated with the 5th plane. SUGMAD ... well ...
p. 105 of DWTM mentions: "Above the fifth region
are worlds beyond description, and the ones living
there under the Supreme Being called The SUGMAD,
a living force, not a being, nor anything but life itself."
Page 24 of TFC has: "This Advaita is not a being, nor
anything but life itself, a living force that is called the
ECK."
I think it's important to remember the time period
for writing of the DWTM manuscript. And how the
time period was relatively contemporary with that
Ananai article. And though TFC was written years
later, it does appear to have at least one chapter
with a lot of the same material as DWTM. Both of
the books have Rebazar Tarzs speaking to Paul
Twitchell. The words being in quotation marks.
Man am I having fun!
Any ideas about the seventh plane region and how
that ties in with Sat Nam & SUGMAD? The latter
appears to be the "word" for the Soul Plane. Even
according to the Eckankar Lexicon.
Etznab

Etznab,
This is what I referred to in my book, The Whole Truth, on page 447.
You discovered the same thing I did.
That's when I realized that the dialogue in DWTM was what he was
referring to as the basis for where The Far Country came from. See
what I wrote about it on page 446.
Doug.

I'm glad that Doug discovered it too.

Henosis Sage

2016-01-02 16:50:19 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Something related to part of your post, perhaps.
Dialogues With The Master was reportedly written
in 1956. The same year as that Ananai article. Well,
I was trying to figure out what this reference to great
ruler of the seventh plane was about. It appears both
in the 1956 Ananai article and Chap. 11 of IMSIAF.
Ananai has Sat Nam, whereas IMSIAF has "Sugmad".
(Sugmad in italics, that is).
It was while searching Chapter 16 of DWTM - THE
COSMIC WORLDS - that I recognized somehting. I
recognized how similar that chapter is with Chapter
One from The Far Country (Chap. One is also called
The Far Country). These chapters from the two diff-
erent book (written 1956 and 1963?) talk about the
objective and subjective aspects of the planes. They
cover the 1st through 5th and then add about three,
or four, above the Soul Plane. The rulers in the high
planes are called Purushas. TFC is a little different
as it mentions "Advaita".
Check those chapters out sometime and see what
I mean.
Anyhow, I still can't fathom why Paul had Sat Nam,
or "Sugmad" connected with the seventh plane. The
Soul Plane and Sat Nam are generally (nowadays)
associated with the 5th plane. SUGMAD ... well ...
p. 105 of DWTM mentions: "Above the fifth region
are worlds beyond description, and the ones living
there under the Supreme Being called The SUGMAD,
a living force, not a being, nor anything but life itself."
Page 24 of TFC has: "This Advaita is not a being, nor
anything but life itself, a living force that is called the
ECK."
I think it's important to remember the time period
for writing of the DWTM manuscript. And how the
time period was relatively contemporary with that
Ananai article. And though TFC was written years
later, it does appear to have at least one chapter
with a lot of the same material as DWTM. Both of
the books have Rebazar Tarzs speaking to Paul
Twitchell. The words being in quotation marks.
Man am I having fun!
Any ideas about the seventh plane region and how
that ties in with Sat Nam & SUGMAD? The latter
appears to be the "word" for the Soul Plane. Even
according to the Eckankar Lexicon.
Etznab

Etznab,
This is what I referred to in my book, The Whole Truth, on page 447.
You discovered the same thing I did.
That's when I realized that the dialogue in DWTM was what he was
referring to as the basis for where The Far Country came from. See
what I wrote about it on page 446.
Doug.

I'm glad that Doug discovered it too.

I don't understand why you're glad.

I think it's important to realize there was NO DIALOGUE in DWTM

NONE

It's a fictional story of compiling other people's writings that Doug
(and others) believes is a "real" representation of Paul learning from
Rebazar Tarzs TALKING TO HIM, and taking him "places".

But that NEVER HAPPENED not with DWTM, and not with anything.

Etznab

2022-03-25 02:22:23 UTC

Post by Henosis Sage

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Something related to part of your post, perhaps.
Dialogues With The Master was reportedly written
in 1956. The same year as that Ananai article. Well,
I was trying to figure out what this reference to great
ruler of the seventh plane was about. It appears both
in the 1956 Ananai article and Chap. 11 of IMSIAF.
Ananai has Sat Nam, whereas IMSIAF has "Sugmad".
(Sugmad in italics, that is).
It was while searching Chapter 16 of DWTM - THE
COSMIC WORLDS - that I recognized somehting. I
recognized how similar that chapter is with Chapter
One from The Far Country (Chap. One is also called
The Far Country). These chapters from the two diff-
erent book (written 1956 and 1963?) talk about the
objective and subjective aspects of the planes. They
cover the 1st through 5th and then add about three,
or four, above the Soul Plane. The rulers in the high
planes are called Purushas. TFC is a little different
as it mentions "Advaita".
Check those chapters out sometime and see what
I mean.
Anyhow, I still can't fathom why Paul had Sat Nam,
or "Sugmad" connected with the seventh plane. The
Soul Plane and Sat Nam are generally (nowadays)
associated with the 5th plane. SUGMAD ... well ...
p. 105 of DWTM mentions: "Above the fifth region
are worlds beyond description, and the ones living
there under the Supreme Being called The SUGMAD,
a living force, not a being, nor anything but life itself."
Page 24 of TFC has: "This Advaita is not a being, nor
anything but life itself, a living force that is called the
ECK."
I think it's important to remember the time period
for writing of the DWTM manuscript. And how the
time period was relatively contemporary with that
Ananai article. And though TFC was written years
later, it does appear to have at least one chapter
with a lot of the same material as DWTM. Both of
the books have Rebazar Tarzs speaking to Paul
Twitchell. The words being in quotation marks.
Man am I having fun!
Any ideas about the seventh plane region and how
that ties in with Sat Nam & SUGMAD? The latter
appears to be the "word" for the Soul Plane. Even
according to the Eckankar Lexicon.
Etznab

Etznab,
This is what I referred to in my book, The Whole Truth, on page 447.
You discovered the same thing I did.
That's when I realized that the dialogue in DWTM was what he was
referring to as the basis for where The Far Country came from. See
what I wrote about it on page 446.
Doug.

I'm glad that Doug discovered it too.

I don't understand why you're glad.
I think it's important to realize there was NO DIALOGUE in DWTM
NONE
It's a fictional story of compiling other people's writings that Doug
(and others) believes is a "real" representation of Paul learning from
Rebazar Tarzs TALKING TO HIM, and taking him "places".
But that NEVER HAPPENED not with DWTM, and not with anything.

But Doug knew about Rebazar Tarzs even since the days of Darwin Gross. And when Doug presented Darwin with the news of an audiotape having Paul Twitchell imitating the voice of Rebazar Tarzs!

Art

2010-02-10 12:26:46 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

I found it on eBay, Doug. There is four issues available at the moment
from two different sellers ( not on eBay ) and I already contact them
asking them
if the is any P. Twitchell articles in them. Only one replied with a
no answer : (

We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?

Do you know which book or booklet was the first official Eckankar
publication
Was it the " An Introduction to Eckankar " or something else ?

Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!

Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...

BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )

http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century-Spiritual-Expression-Falun-gong.html

Love,

Artemis

Rich

2010-02-11 00:17:54 UTC

Post by Doug
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Aloha Artemis,

The one I have says ©1966. I browsed through my books and booklets and
didn't find an earlier one.

"When I first encountered Rebazar Tarzs, one of the world's greatest adepts,
the torchbearer for ECKANKAR, ancient science of soul travel, in the hill
country north of Darjeeling, my life made a drastic change.

I had already had a lifetime of out-of-the-body experiences, but he had
something which was my destiny to have as a part of the divine knowledge,
ECKANKAR, which has now become as much of myself as eating and sleeping. I
had grown up in a family which could do exteriorization very well,
especially a half sister who had taught me, at the age of three, how to get
out of the body at will.

But at this particular time I was hiking through the high hills of Upper
Bengal, along a trail which would lead up to a 12,000 foot pass into Sikkim
and eventually to Tibet, that mysterious land of the Lamas. My sole purpose
was to find the elusive Tibetan Lama, known as Rebazar Tarzs, of whom I had
heard much of from the late Sudar Singh at Allahabad. This lama Rebazar
Tarzs, was one of those who had escaped the Chinese, who had invaded his
country, and it was said that he now lived in the hill country close by.

Stories about this wondrous saint who was the advocate of ECKANKAR, fired my
imagination. ECKANKAR is the ancient art of traveling in the jiva body
anywhere one wishes.

It was a hot summer afternoon in 1951."

- Paul Twitchell INTRODUCTION TO ECKANKAR pg.27

Post by Art
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!

A whole lot of the early books were copyrighted in 1968, including ECK IS
ART. I have three copies!

"Art has always been one of the highest and most direct expressions of the
ECK.

This was so even in prehistoric times, when man was yet dimly aware of
methods for making visible the spirit he felt surrounding him and within
himself.

The famous Lascaux cave drawings of France provide a graphic illustration.

(...)

Coming closer to the dawn of recorded history, we find in Sumerian Art and
then in Assyrian art a dignity and solemnity which speak of their spiritual
purpose. We are amazed that these early cultures produced such wondrous
design.

The same might be said of Egyptian art at its best. Certainly the amount of
effort put into artistic expression throughout the ages seems entirely
incommensurate with the practical value of the result.

Whence comes this urge of man to embellish the world with the beautiful?
Certainly from the ECKthe basic nature of manwhich is Soul.

Unfortunately, art sometimes becomes sterile. When it is used as
reinforcement for rigid tradition, when it becomes an instrument for an
oppressive ruling class or regime, its value in expressing the ECK is vastly
reduced, although it can never be entirely suppressed.

Art has usually, until comparatively recent times, been connected with and
sponsored by religion. At its best, this was proper, as when the religion
expressed the Soul of the people and of the artists. At the worst, art has
been used by priestly classes to reinforce their own positions, in which
case it has become repetitive and mechanical.

It is also interesting that art has made great strides in periods of
relative freedom and change. The great Greek art was that of the
pre-Hellenic period, before the Greek cities had become rigid and decadent.
The purity of form and directness of expression of pre-Hellenic Greek work
shine out spiritually in contrast to the technically superior but overworked
sculpture of later Grecian periods. During these later Greek times
philosophy rose to a high pointbut philosophy is a degree removed from the
ECK compared to art.

The artist does not think his work into existence. He does not describe it
but simply presents it to the viewer or hearer. In these respects the artist
approaches directly the ECK. I do not think it unreasonable to say that the
artist, however humble, engages in a sort of soul travel while pursuing his
work.

This is true however crude the attempt may be. The approach is through
direct experience. The artist is reaching for God-consciousness, for Total
Awareness. One might say that in the process of creating a work of art, the
artist must leave his body. He labors outside his body, in the nearest
approach of which he is capable to God-consciousness.

Anyone who has ever painted or written music or produced sculpture knows
that a feeling arises within himself during the act which he cannot explain.
In a sense he falls into a sort of trancecall it "mood" if you willin
which his every move seems directed by something or someone outside his
everyday self."

- Paul Twitchell ECK IS ART Pgs.1-4

Post by Art
Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...
BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century-Spiritual-Expression-Falun-gong.html

LOL Seems you made a big assumption. Someone made a mistake of putting that
picture there, unless they were purposefully trying to conflate Eckankar as
a cult like Falun-gong. How could Paul have been "right in the middle of" a
group founded in 1992? I didn't see any writing on that site which suggested
that. I also wonder how a picture of Paul at the Forth Eckankar World Wide
Seminar connects him either?

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Santim Vah

2010-02-11 02:57:55 UTC

Like how SLOW can this guy get?

Artemis made an 'assumption' he says!!! <shaking my head>

thank god this twit never talks to me anymore, .. what pure bliss.

A GSOH and being able recognise a joke or humour when it appears is an
accurate sign of a high SOC.

Art

2010-02-11 12:48:52 UTC

Post by Doug
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

Aloha Artemis,
The one I have says ©1966. I browsed through my books and booklets and
didn't find an earlier one.

My copy of the introduction to Eckankar arrived on the mail today !!!
and also 2 new cosmic stars. march and september 1968
Paul has an article in both of them and and a few advertisments in
each issue,
to my surprise, Paul in 1968 advertise and still promotes the
introduction to
Eckankar and not any other booklets, so i have a strong feeling that
may be the first one.

Post by Rich
"When I first encountered Rebazar Tarzs, one of the world's greatest adepts,
the torchbearer for ECKANKAR, ancient science of soul travel, in the hill
country north of Darjeeling, my life made a drastic change.
I had already had a lifetime of out-of-the-body experiences, but he had
something which was my destiny to have as a part of the divine knowledge,
ECKANKAR, which has now become as much of myself as eating and sleeping. I
had grown up in a family which could do exteriorization very well,
especially a half sister who had taught me, at the age of three, how to get
out of the body at will.
But at this particular time I was hiking through the high hills of Upper
Bengal, along a trail which would lead up to a 12,000 foot pass into Sikkim
and eventually to Tibet, that mysterious land of the Lamas. My sole purpose
was to find the elusive Tibetan Lama, known as Rebazar Tarzs, of whom I had
heard much of from the late Sudar Singh at Allahabad. This lama Rebazar
Tarzs, was one of those who had escaped the Chinese, who had invaded his
country, and it was said that he now lived in the hill country close by.
Stories about this wondrous saint who was the advocate of ECKANKAR, fired my
imagination. ECKANKAR is the ancient art of traveling in the jiva body
anywhere one wishes.
It was a hot summer afternoon in 1951."
- Paul Twitchell INTRODUCTION TO ECKANKAR pg.27

CORRECT ! ... : >

Post by Art
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!

A whole lot of the early books were copyrighted in 1968, including ECK IS
ART. I have three copies!

THREE COPIES ? ...... !!!!

( ... my birthday is next month... and if that doesn't work... : )

...SERIOUSLY if you are ever ready to depart with one them, please
consider me,
I will be more than happy to pay for a booklet.

Post by Rich
"Art has always been one of the highest and most direct expressions of the
ECK.
This was so even in prehistoric times, when man was yet dimly aware of
methods for making visible the spirit he felt surrounding him and within
himself.
The famous Lascaux cave drawings of France provide a graphic illustration.
(...)
Coming closer to the dawn of recorded history, we find in Sumerian Art and
then in Assyrian art a dignity and solemnity which speak of their spiritual
purpose. We are amazed that these early cultures produced such wondrous
design.
The same might be said of Egyptian art at its best. Certainly the amount of
effort put into artistic expression throughout the ages seems entirely
incommensurate with the practical value of the result.
Whence comes this urge of man to embellish the world with the beautiful?
Certainly from the ECK—the basic nature of man—which is Soul.
Unfortunately, art sometimes becomes sterile. When it is used as
reinforcement for rigid tradition, when it becomes an instrument for an
oppressive ruling class or regime, its value in expressing the ECK is vastly
reduced, although it can never be entirely suppressed.
Art has usually, until comparatively recent times, been connected with and
sponsored by religion. At its best, this was proper, as when the religion
expressed the Soul of the people and of the artists. At the worst, art has
been used by priestly classes to reinforce their own positions, in which
case it has become repetitive and mechanical.
It is also interesting that art has made great strides in periods of
relative freedom and change. The great Greek art was that of the
pre-Hellenic period, before the Greek cities had become rigid and decadent.
The purity of form and directness of expression of pre-Hellenic Greek work
shine out spiritually in contrast to the technically superior but overworked
sculpture of later Grecian periods. During these later Greek times
philosophy rose to a high point—but philosophy is a degree removed from the
ECK compared to art.
The artist does not think his work into existence. He does not describe it
but simply presents it to the viewer or hearer. In these respects the artist
approaches directly the ECK. I do not think it unreasonable to say that the
artist, however humble, engages in a sort of soul travel while pursuing his
work.
This is true however crude the attempt may be. The approach is through
direct experience. The artist is reaching for God-consciousness, for Total
Awareness. One might say that in the process of creating a work of art, the
artist must leave his body. He labors outside his body, in the nearest
approach of which he is capable to God-consciousness.
Anyone who has ever painted or written music or produced sculpture knows
that a feeling arises within himself during the act which he cannot explain.
In a sense he falls into a sort of trance—call it "mood" if you will—in
which his every move seems directed by something or someone outside his
everyday self."
- Paul Twitchell ECK IS ART Pgs.1-4

You are wonderful. Big Hug for that !
I love the 2 last paragraphs in particular !
THANK YOU !

LOL Seems you made a big assumption.

NO, i was not, it was a joke, maybe not clear for my part but i knew
it was a mistake.

Post by Rich
Someone made a mistake of putting that
picture there, unless they were purposefully trying to conflate Eckankar as
a cult like Falun-gong.

I took it as a funny mistake

Post by Rich
How could Paul have been "right in the middle of" a
group founded in 1992?

Exactly !..... but a photo of Paul was right in the midddle of a Falun-
gong article, wasn't it? ; )

Post by Rich
I didn't see any writing on that site which suggested
that

Exactly !

. I also wonder how a picture of Paul at the Forth Eckankar World Wide

Post by Rich
Seminar connects him either?

Exactly !

So it was the forth seminar ! I was wondering about that.

Have you ever been in any of Paul's seminars ?
Sean thinks you might have been in one in the late sixties ( ? )

Thanks again,

Artemis

Post by Rich
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Rich

2010-02-11 18:42:49 UTC

Post by Art
So it was the forth seminar ! I was wondering about that.

I am pretty sure.

Post by Art
Have you ever been in any of Paul's seminars ?
Sean thinks you might have been in one in the late sixties ( ? )

I saw him two times after I first time I met him and was exposed to Eckankar
at the 1st Eckankar International Youth Conference in the spring of 1970.

When's your Birthday and what's your address?

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Art

2010-02-13 12:32:25 UTC

Post by Art
So it was the forth seminar ! I was wondering about that.

I am pretty sure.

The second WW seminar was in stardust hotel, Nov 7-10, 1968
Maybe the forth as well.

I missed it when I mentioned to you the the new cosmic star magazines
the other day. Yesterday when I went through the magazines again, the
fist thing I saw was the *big* advertisement of the 2nd ww on the
September
issue......... ! ....... < shaking my head >

Oh ! guess who was special feature speaker.......
........Mr Brad Steiger !

They are real Gems these magazines in regards Eckankar's early history
and obviously Paulji was Very Busy !

Post by Art
Have you ever been in any of Paul's seminars ?
Sean thinks you might have been in one in the late sixties ( ? )

I saw him two times after I first time I met him and was exposed to Eckankar
at the 1st Eckankar International Youth Conference in the spring of 1970.

I would love to hear sometime your view and impressions of these early
seminars
with Paul !

Post by Rich
When's your Birthday and what's your address?

I will write to you privately .................... < HUg smile>

Have a good day today and TOMORROW !

All the best,

Artemis

Post by Rich
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Etznab

2010-02-13 15:11:30 UTC

Post by Art
So it was the forth seminar ! I was wondering about that.

I am pretty sure.

The second WW seminar was in stardust hotel, Nov 7-10, 1968
Maybe the forth as well.
I missed it when I mentioned to you the the new cosmic star magazines
the other day. Yesterday when I went through the magazines again, the
fist thing I saw was the *big* advertisement of the 2nd ww on the
September
issue......... ! ....... < shaking my head >
Oh ! guess who was special feature speaker.......
........Mr Brad Steiger !
They are real Gems these magazines in regards Eckankar's early history
and obviously Paulji was Very Busy !

Post by Art
Have you ever been in any of Paul's seminars ?
Sean thinks you might have been in one in the late sixties ( ? )

I saw him two times after I first time I met him and was exposed to Eckankar
at the 1st Eckankar International Youth Conference in the spring of 1970.

I would love to hear sometime your view and impressions of these early
seminars
with Paul !

Post by Rich
When's your Birthday and what's your address?

I will write to you privately .................... < HUg smile>
Have a good day today and TOMORROW !
All the best,
Artemis

Post by Rich
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I'm enjoying the trip down memory lane. Looking at the
timeline events for 1968. It was quite the year. IMO.

I think the first wisdom notes came out in January. The
terms "ECK Master" and "living ECK Master" appeared
to be introduced (summer & fall W.N.?).

Brad's book came out in 1968?

Darwin Gross and Patti Simpson came to Eckankar in
1968?

The December 1968 W.N. talks about how during the
2nd WWS Paul T. gave "four degrees" to the initiates?
Mahdis was the 3rd degree & Adept the 4th. I believe.

All About ECK and ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds came out in 1968, too?

1968 was one year before - The Tiger's Fang in 1967,
which was one year before Intorduction ot Eckankar,
in 1966?

1966 was apparently a year when some editing and
revisions took place. Including the names for Pauls
teachers, masters, etc?

Eckankar was officially founded in October 1965?

It's nice to wander down memory lane - after all of
these years. To go back to the start. Especially
for those who have yet to "go there".

Thanks. Art & Rich.

Etznab

Art

2010-02-16 10:53:27 UTC

Post by Etznab

Post by Art
So it was the forth seminar ! I was wondering about that.

I am pretty sure.

The second WW seminar was in stardust hotel, Nov 7-10, 1968
Maybe the forth as well.
I missed it when I mentioned to you the the new cosmic star magazines
the other day. Yesterday when I went through the magazines again, the
fist thing I saw was the *big* advertisement of the 2nd ww on the
September
issue......... ! ....... < shaking my head >
Oh ! guess who was special feature speaker.......
........Mr Brad Steiger !
They are real Gems these magazines in regards Eckankar's early history
and obviously Paulji was Very Busy !

Post by Art
Have you ever been in any of Paul's seminars ?
Sean thinks you might have been in one in the late sixties ( ? )

I saw him two times after I first time I met him and was exposed to Eckankar
at the 1st Eckankar International Youth Conference in the spring of 1970.

I would love to hear sometime your view and impressions of these early
seminars
with Paul !

Post by Rich
When's your Birthday and what's your address?

I will write to you privately .................... < HUg smile>
Have a good day today and TOMORROW !
All the best,
Artemis

Post by Rich
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Yes

Post by Etznab
Darwin Gross and Patti Simpson came to Eckankar in
1968?

Yes, as far as I know.

Post by Etznab
The December 1968 W.N. talks about how during the
2nd WWS Paul T. gave "four degrees" to the initiates?
Mahdis was the 3rd degree & Adept the 4th. I believe.

Do you know when and where exactly was the 1rst WWS ?
1967 ?

Post by Etznab
All About ECK and ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds came out in 1968, too?

All about ECK was published in 1968 but ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds
was published in 1969 by B. Steigers publishing company LANCER BOOKS
NY

However, I came across an anaivalable copy at the moment, which was :

“Eckankar: The Key to Secret Worlds Published December 31, 1965.
Unknown Binding”

and also

Eckankar: The Key to Secret Worlds
Unknown Binding: 254 pages
Publisher: Illuminated Way Press (1966)
Language: English

I think this might be the copy Rich was referring to not so long ago

I really enjoy exploring the history of Eckankar at the moment
as well Etznab ! ... so THANK YOU ! : )

Post by Etznab
1968 was one year before - The Tiger's Fang in 1967,
which was one year before Intorduction ot Eckankar,
in 1966?
1966 was apparently a year when some editing and
revisions took place. Including the names for Pauls
teachers, masters, etc?
Eckankar was officially founded in October 1965?
It's nice to wander down memory lane - after all of
these years. To go back to the start. Especially
for those who have yet to "go there".
Thanks. Art & Rich.
Etznab

Rich

2010-02-16 21:17:09 UTC

Post by Etznab
I'm enjoying the trip down memory lane. Looking at the
timeline events for 1968. It was quite the year. IMO.
I think the first wisdom notes came out in January. The
terms "ECK Master" and "living ECK Master" appeared
to be introduced (summer & fall W.N.?).
Brad's book came out in 1968?

Yes

Post by Etznab
Darwin Gross and Patti Simpson came to Eckankar in
1968?

Yes, as far as I know.

Post by Etznab
The December 1968 W.N. talks about how during the
2nd WWS Paul T. gave "four degrees" to the initiates?
Mahdis was the 3rd degree & Adept the 4th. I believe.

Do you know when and where exactly was the 1rst WWS ?
1967 ?

Yes on '67, and I believe it was Las Vegas. The 3rd was in LA, the 4th in LV
at the Stardust Hotel, the 5th was also in LV at the Flamingo Hotel.(I was
at that one)

Post by Etznab
All About ECK and ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds came out in 1968, too?

All about ECK was published in 1968 but ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds
was published in 1969 by B. Steigers publishing company LANCER BOOKS
NY
Eckankar: The Key to Secret Worlds Published December 31, 1965.
Unknown Binding
and also
Eckankar: The Key to Secret Worlds
Unknown Binding: 254 pages
Publisher: Illuminated Way Press (1966)
Language: English
I think this might be the copy Rich was referring to not so long ago

Emmm... I don't recall that. I suspect that both of those are incorrect.
The '69 KTSW I have says "NEVER BEFORE PUBLISHED" at the bottom of the front
cover.

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Etznab

2010-02-17 01:20:13 UTC

Yes

Post by Etznab
Darwin Gross and Patti Simpson came to Eckankar in
1968?

Yes, as far as I know.

Post by Etznab
The December 1968 W.N. talks about how during the
2nd WWS Paul T. gave "four degrees" to the initiates?
Mahdis was the 3rd degree & Adept the 4th. I believe.

Do you know when and where exactly was the 1rst WWS ?
1967 ?

Yes on '67, and I believe it was Las Vegas. The 3rd was in LA, the 4th in LV
at the Stardust Hotel, the 5th was also in LV at the Flamingo Hotel.(I was
at that one)

Post by Etznab
All About ECK and ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds came out in 1968, too?

All about ECK was published in 1968 but ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds
was published in 1969 by B. Steigers publishing company LANCER BOOKS
NY
“Eckankar: The Key to Secret Worlds Published December 31, 1965.
Unknown Binding”
and also
Eckankar: The Key to Secret Worlds
Unknown Binding: 254 pages
Publisher: Illuminated Way Press (1966)
Language: English
I think this might be the copy Rich was referring to not so long ago

Emmm... I don't recall that. I suspect that both of those are incorrect.
The '69 KTSW I have says "NEVER BEFORE PUBLISHED" at the bottom of the front
cover.
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Yes. 1969 looks correct (for KTSW). Don't know why
I had 1968. Probably a typo.

Etznab

Art

2010-02-18 12:14:30 UTC

Yes

Post by Etznab
Darwin Gross and Patti Simpson came to Eckankar in
1968?

Yes, as far as I know.

Post by Etznab
The December 1968 W.N. talks about how during the
2nd WWS Paul T. gave "four degrees" to the initiates?
Mahdis was the 3rd degree & Adept the 4th. I believe.

Do you know when and where exactly was the 1rst WWS ?
1967 ?

Yes on '67, and I believe it was Las Vegas. The 3rd was in LA, the 4th in LV
at the Stardust Hotel, the 5th was also in LV at the Flamingo Hotel.(I was
at that one)

Post by Etznab
All About ECK and ECKANKAR, The Key to Secret
Worlds came out in 1968, too?

Emmm... I don't recall that. I suspect that both of those are incorrect.
The '69 KTSW I have says "NEVER BEFORE PUBLISHED" at the bottom of the front
cover.

The details from 65 or 66 publication of KTSW are copy and paste
straight from
an AMAZON page that I came across recently searching on P Twitchell's
books,
I am not suprised if they wrong as I came across with a few mistakes
like that
already.

I vagualy remember you posting a quote/s to Etznab from the KTSW not
long ago,
I think you mention 1968 on the quote and since I knew the book
came out in 1969 i thought it might be an early publication hence my
reference
to the book and you...sorry about the confusion.

Thanks for the info about the early seminars !

Artemis

Post by Rich
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Doug

2010-02-13 23:53:11 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

I found it on eBay, Doug. There is four issues available at the moment
from two different sellers ( not on eBay ) and I already contact them
asking them
if the is any P. Twitchell articles in them. Only one replied with a
no answer : (
We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?
Do you know which book or booklet was the first official Eckankar
publication
Was it the " An Introduction to Eckankar " or something else ?
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!
Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...
BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century...
Love,
Artemis

Artemis,

Orion and New Cosmic Star were his most popular. He also ran ads and
some articles in Fate magazine.

I'm sure there were other places he got published, including
newspapers, but those you name were the ones I heard the most often.

Yes, Introduction to ECKANKAR was the first ECK book he published. See
my notes about it on page 314 of my book. I quote what Paul had to say
about it.

By the way, the first edition shows "Sawan Singh" in the index of the
book, as if Sawan Singh was mentioned on page 5. But when you go to
page five you see the reference to Sudar Singh. Clearly a hold-over
from the original article.

I believe all of the articles in Introduction to Eckankar had been
published before he compiled them and printed them together as a
booklet. Most were printed in 1964 and 1965.

That article about the Falun Gong is wild. How on earth did Paul end
up there? Must be bilocation...

I was keeping an eye on Ebay for a while, but generally only ran
across the things I already had.

One article I still haven't seen a complete copy of is the article
that Paul wrote for Scientology. I'm sure there's a copy around. I
have the one he wrote in 1957, but there was another one he wrote in
1956, I believe. I've seen quotes from it.

Love,

Doug.

Art

2010-02-16 11:37:05 UTC

Post by Santim Vah

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

I found it on eBay, Doug. There is four issues available at the moment
from two different sellers ( not on eBay ) and I already contact them
asking them
if the is any P. Twitchell articles in them. Only one replied with a
no answer : (
We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?
Do you know which book or booklet was the first official Eckankar
publication
Was it the " An Introduction to Eckankar " or something else ?
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!
Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...
BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century...
Love,
Artemis

Artemis,
Orion and New Cosmic Star were his most popular. He also ran ads and
some articles in Fate magazine.
I'm sure there were other places he got published, including
newspapers, but those you name were the ones I heard the most often.
Yes, Introduction to ECKANKAR was the first ECK book he published. See
my notes about it on page 314 of my book. I quote what Paul had to say
about it.
By the way, the first edition shows "Sawan Singh" in the index of the
book, as if Sawan Singh was mentioned on page 5. But when you go to
page five you see the reference to Sudar Singh. Clearly a hold-over
from the original article.
I believe all of the articles in Introduction to Eckankar had been
published before he compiled them and printed them together as a
booklet. Most were printed in 1964 and 1965.
That article about the Falun Gong is wild. How on earth did Paul end
up there? Must be bilocation...
I was keeping an eye on Ebay for a while, but generally only ran
across the things I already had.
One article I still haven't seen a complete copy of is the article
that Paul wrote for Scientology. I'm sure there's a copy around. I
have the one he wrote in 1957, but there was another one he wrote in
1956, I believe. I've seen quotes from it.
Love,
Doug.

Hi Doug,

I will keep an eye for the 1956 article, was it in the
“Ability" (Scientology magazine) ?

There is a good seller from whom I bought a few items including the
3 cosmic star magazines, who specializes in Eckankar and also
Scientology items. I will ask him and also I can send you his contact
details
if you are interested too.

Thank you for pointing the "Sawan Singh" error in the Introduction to
ECKANKAR
I wouldn't pick it up myself in the next 100 years.............
maybe...............

Thanks again,

Artemis

Doug

2010-02-21 07:59:17 UTC

Post by Santim Vah

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

I found it on eBay, Doug. There is four issues available at the moment
from two different sellers ( not on eBay ) and I already contact them
asking them
if the is any P. Twitchell articles in them. Only one replied with a
no answer : (
We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?
Do you know which book or booklet was the first official Eckankar
publication
Was it the " An Introduction to Eckankar " or something else ?
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!
Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...
BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century...
Love,
Artemis

Artemis,
Orion and New Cosmic Star were his most popular. He also ran ads and
some articles in Fate magazine.
I'm sure there were other places he got published, including
newspapers, but those you name were the ones I heard the most often.
Yes, Introduction to ECKANKAR was the first ECK book he published. See
my notes about it on page 314 of my book. I quote what Paul had to say
about it.
By the way, the first edition shows "Sawan Singh" in the index of the
book, as if Sawan Singh was mentioned on page 5. But when you go to
page five you see the reference to Sudar Singh. Clearly a hold-over
from the original article.
I believe all of the articles in Introduction to Eckankar had been
published before he compiled them and printed them together as a
booklet. Most were printed in 1964 and 1965.
That article about the Falun Gong is wild. How on earth did Paul end
up there? Must be bilocation...
I was keeping an eye on Ebay for a while, but generally only ran
across the things I already had.
One article I still haven't seen a complete copy of is the article
that Paul wrote for Scientology. I'm sure there's a copy around. I
have the one he wrote in 1957, but there was another one he wrote in
1956, I believe. I've seen quotes from it.
Love,
Doug.

Hi Doug,
I will keep an eye for the 1956 article, was it in the
“Ability" (Scientology magazine) ?
There is a good seller from whom I bought a few items including the
3 cosmic star magazines, who specializes in Eckankar and also
Scientology items. I will ask him and also I can send you his contact
details
if you are interested too.
Thank you for pointing the "Sawan Singh" error in the Introduction to
ECKANKAR
I wouldn't pick it up myself in the next 100 years.............
maybe...............
Thanks again,
Artemis

Artemis,

Yes, I believe it was published in the Ability magazine.

Thanks.

Doug.

Etznab

2016-01-02 16:08:09 UTC

Post by Santim Vah

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

I found it on eBay, Doug. There is four issues available at the moment
from two different sellers ( not on eBay ) and I already contact them
asking them
if the is any P. Twitchell articles in them. Only one replied with a
no answer : (
We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?
Do you know which book or booklet was the first official Eckankar
publication
Was it the " An Introduction to Eckankar " or something else ?
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!
Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...
BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century...
Love,
Artemis

Artemis,
Orion and New Cosmic Star were his most popular. He also ran ads and
some articles in Fate magazine.
I'm sure there were other places he got published, including
newspapers, but those you name were the ones I heard the most often.
Yes, Introduction to ECKANKAR was the first ECK book he published. See
my notes about it on page 314 of my book. I quote what Paul had to say
about it.
By the way, the first edition shows "Sawan Singh" in the index of the
book, as if Sawan Singh was mentioned on page 5. But when you go to
page five you see the reference to Sudar Singh. Clearly a hold-over
from the original article.
I believe all of the articles in Introduction to Eckankar had been
published before he compiled them and printed them together as a
booklet. Most were printed in 1964 and 1965.
That article about the Falun Gong is wild. How on earth did Paul end
up there? Must be bilocation...
I was keeping an eye on Ebay for a while, but generally only ran
across the things I already had.
One article I still haven't seen a complete copy of is the article
that Paul wrote for Scientology. I'm sure there's a copy around. I
have the one he wrote in 1957, but there was another one he wrote in
1956, I believe. I've seen quotes from it.
Love,
Doug.

Hi Doug,
I will keep an eye for the 1956 article, was it in the
"Ability" (Scientology magazine) ?
There is a good seller from whom I bought a few items including the
3 cosmic star magazines, who specializes in Eckankar and also
Scientology items. I will ask him and also I can send you his contact
details
if you are interested too.
Thank you for pointing the "Sawan Singh" error in the Introduction to
ECKANKAR
I wouldn't pick it up myself in the next 100 years.............
maybe...............
Thanks again,
Artemis

I saw a website recently for Ability Magazine. I think they had archived copies available for free viewing. Saw some of Twitchell's articles there.

Rich

2010-02-14 01:59:40 UTC

Post by Art
We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?

I just recalled the article I have a zerox copy of:

SEARCH Magazine Sept 1975
THE MYSTERIOUS COLONEL ZASKQ
by Harold Gray Brandt

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.eckankar/msg/12c14dc7af664db3

Could be Harold Gray Brandt is a pen name Paul used, and that it was
published posthumously, or... ¿

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~/|
_/ |\
/ | \
-/ | \
_/____|___\_
Rich~~~~(__________/~~~~Sailing the CyberSea~~~~~

Art

2010-02-16 11:57:54 UTC

SEARCH Magazine Sept 1975
THE MYSTERIOUS COLONEL ZASKQ
by Harold Gray Brandt
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.eckankar/msg/12c14dc7af66...
Could be Harold Gray Brandt is a pen name Paul used, and that it was
published posthumously, or... ¿
` o
|
~/|
_/ |\
/ | \
-/ | \
_/____|___\_
Rich~~~~(__________/~~~~Sailing the CyberSea~~~~~

That is a lovely read and a very INTERESTING article !!!!
Thank you for reposting it !

Have you done any research on the names James Stanley,
Colin Georges, Paul Jacoby and Harold Gray Brandt in the
possibility that they might be Paul's pen names ?

Rich

2010-02-16 19:34:26 UTC

We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?

That is a lovely read and a very INTERESTING article !!!!
Thank you for reposting it !
Have you done any research on the names James Stanley,
Colin Georges, Paul Jacoby and Harold Gray Brandt in the
possibility that they might be Paul's pen names ?

Yes, several years ago, and came up with nothing...

Etznab

2016-01-02 16:06:11 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

I found it on eBay, Doug. There is four issues available at the moment
from two different sellers ( not on eBay ) and I already contact them
asking them
if the is any P. Twitchell articles in them. Only one replied with a
no answer : (
We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?
Do you know which book or booklet was the first official Eckankar
publication
Was it the " An Introduction to Eckankar " or something else ?
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!
Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...
BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century-Spiritual-Expression-Falun-gong.html
Love,
Artemis

"BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )"

What was that statement based on?

Henosis Sage

2016-01-02 16:46:09 UTC

Post by Etznab

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

I found it on eBay, Doug. There is four issues available at the moment
from two different sellers ( not on eBay ) and I already contact them
asking them
if the is any P. Twitchell articles in them. Only one replied with a
no answer : (
We bought several items online lately containing Paul's old articles
and some books
so I have informed several sellers that I am very interested in
articles of P Twitchell
especially for the Ananai, the New cosmic star and the Orion
magazine,
There is any other to your knowledge that I could add into my list ?
Do you know which book or booklet was the first official Eckankar
publication
Was it the " An Introduction to Eckankar " or something else ?
Do you have the little booklet " Eck is Art " I saw it recently on
line but not
available and I would love to know Paul's ideas about the subject !!!
Anyway... I hope something will come our way, internet is full of
surprises...
BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Religious-Phenomena/Twentieth-Century-Spiritual-Expression-Falun-gong.html
Love,
Artemis

"BTW did you Know Paul had a very close connection with Falun-gong !!!
......In fact he was right in the middle of it....... : )"
What was that statement based on?

Oh etznab, mate, click on the link provided.

btw artemis really has no interest in any of this (nor eckankar) anymore.
she was 'over it' long before I was.
she never reads a.r.e. and doesn't care, unless i happen to mention something
that grabs her attention (very rare)
cheers

Etznab

2015-12-21 17:34:19 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

"This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis."

Yes. It is a very great find! Historic even.

Etznab

2016-01-02 15:56:45 UTC

Sean,
This is a great find! Congratulations to Artemis.
I looked everywhere across the Internet for this a couple years ago.
Do you think she could track down other editions of that magazine?
If you go to page 145 in my book, The Whole Truth, you will see that
in 1963, Paul said "He still writes occasionally for a magazine
published in Japan by an Indian religious group."
This might be the Ananai. It would be interesting to see if she could
track down other copies, even as late as 1963. It seems that Paul
published other articles somewhere in Japan during that time.
I was able to see records of the Ananai, when I searched a couple
years ago, but could never find any editions. I even asked some
friends who know Japan well. So, this is a great find!
I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were
changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since
this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with
Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as
he did so often back then.
then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think
there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the
first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a
surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later.
Thanks for sharing this. Where did Artemis find this?
Doug.

"... I read through the article and it appears that the terms Sat Nam were changed to Sugmad, and Ruhani Satsang was changed to Eckankar. Since this is in mid-1956, this is the time Paul was still involved with Kirpal Singh of Ruhani Satsang. So, he was clearly giving credit, as he did so often back then.

"I also find it interesting how similar some of the words Paul wrote then were to things he would write later in The Tiger's Fang. I think there are a number of sentencest are almost exactly the same, as the first chapter of TTF if I remember correctly. This also isn't a surprise, since he wrote The Tiger's Fang about a year later. ... ."

Looks like Doug giving credit where credit is due.

Etznab

2022-03-25 02:18:34 UTC